Northstar is a minimalist web browser written from scratch in C. One window, one page, one process — about 160,000 lines of original C, small enough for one person to read and audit end-to-end. It carries no upstream browser engine: no Gecko, no WebKit, no Blink. It is free software under the GNU General Public License, version 3 or later, and it runs on Linux, macOS and Windows — on Windows from the Microsoft Store.

Northstar Browser version 1.0.12 released! A sunny ark comic on about:start, a classic Mozilla-style toolbar with address-bar suggestions, relayout and repaint that only redo what changed, popovers per the HTML standard, the Microsoft Store package, an 8 MB engine stack, and a build on Fabrice Bellard’s original QuickJS

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    8 hours ago

    Is that a fucking joke?? You think that a browser is a software you can simply do in you free times??

    For the people coming in the comment section : That’s a fucking dangerous thing to download IMHO. There is nothing protecting you against all what you can get on the raw internet using this shit.

    Don’t put your dick in AIDS, don’t put this “browser” on your system!

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    1 day ago

    I can not tell you how tired of seeing these vibe coded projects I am.

    You didn’t give nearly enough of a shit to write the application, why should I give enough of a shit to use it? Could you explain, in detail, line by line, what the happy path of a standard web request is in this thing? Could you walk me through the specific engineering decisions that were made and why? Could you point to the specific regions of code that reflect those engineering decisions?

    I’m beyond exhausted with these things and honestly I’ve gotten to the point where I’d like for us to ban non-codeberg repos

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      The browser feels vibecoded. It kinda works but it is PISS FUCKING SLOW with a massive memory leak. The page formatting works most of the time, but it breaks on the most random ass shit.

      It feels like in the 5 minutes of using this browser I have tested it more then the actual “”“devs”“”.

      Edit: I have compared it with the servo browser now.

      Servo is not the fastest browser (it is still in alpha so I do expect that) but compared to northstar it can be described as nearly instant page loads.

      Ok, after further testing I don’t know if it is a memory leak or just weird caching as both browsers seem to suffer from it on one specific site. But I don’t want to test it further because it is just painfull how slow northstar is.

      Northstar cannot do the anubis check it is stuck at 0kH/s. Servo did it nearly instantly.

      You can watch a youtube video on servo. Northstar has a full on mental breakdown while trying to load youtube itself.

      Tabstops are sometimes not visible with servo. I have no idea if northstar even supports them. I keep pressing tab and enter hoping it would do something but nothing happens but sometimes it reloads the site. Sometimes enter works and sometimes it doesnt. It feels like hell to use.

      tldr: if you want a browser that is not chrome or firefox use servo.

      Another edit:

      I went through the code a little bit and I have to say:

      This is the worst code I’ve ever seen. It is an absolute confusing mess. js.c has some set_navigation_milestone function wich executes multiple times during a page load, wich is 2000 lines long, creates the whole js context, executes some js for some fucking reason. No wonder it is so slow.

      The whole code base is a disjointed unreadable mess. Nothing makes any sense in there.

        • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          No, they’ve been bought out by a super shady company years ago. They’re also chromium now. The original Opera team partially moved to create Vivaldi, also Chromium.

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          3 hours ago

          Opera is also based on chrome. If your goal is to not use Google chrome then yes. Servo is not based on chrome or firefox. It is completely its own thing.

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      Sections of code written by AI cannot be copyrighted, as such I assume the GPL cannot apply to those. Knowing what is copyrighted, and what it not, may be difficult to tell.

      As far as I know.

    • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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      Þe first commit was… July 21? 400kloc in 2 months. Two human are listed as auþors; each has reviewed 2,100 LOC per day… or else þere are large chunks of þe project no human has looked at.