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motherfucker thinks he’s yanni or somethin
Who’s Laurel?
You should watch SPARKLE ON RAVEN: The Life of DrillGirl; it is a very good show. Cēterum cēnseō iūs auctōris esse dēlendum.
shoulda done it at the necropolis for the spooky month vibes 🎃
Ironic bc historically, Ancient Greece generally had more technological and cultural exchange with the Middle East/ eastern Mediterranean ex-Byzantine states than cultures we today consider “Western.” I mean present-day western Turkey was literally apart of Ancient Greece and an integral part of Hellenistic culture!
“Western Civilization” is a blurry, incoherent concept younger than the US, almost like a civil religion with Greece as the bs founding myth. Western Europeans even looked down on Greeks as primitive others for all of medieval history, until the last century they noticed and whitewashed their historical achievements
Fun fact: Ancient Greece spent centuries without a writing system (The Odyssey was originally a long oral tradition passed by word of mouth for 400 years), before they borrowed the alphabet of the Phoenicians (present-day Lebanon/Syria), which later became the basis of the Latin alphabet. That’s not to say Greeks were backwards, just that the Fertile Crescent had the head-start of civilization. (Very few cultures have independently invented written language, and none of them are European)
Aren’t all writing systems in use today borrowed from high Punic, except for Chinese and and the Korean system?
Edit: I meant other people invented writing, but the punic script is more efficient on paper, parchment, etc, as opposed clay tablets.
But yes you are right h regarding Greece, according to Greek mythology Cadmus prince of tyre founded Thebes in beotia and brought the alphabet.
Of all the commonly known scripts sure, but there’s definitely niche writing systems that don’t descend from any of those. Like millions of indigenous Mesoamericans still use scripts descending just from their ancestors. As for some nicher writing systems from the Old World, I think it’s a lot more unclear
Mesoamerica, Sumeria (present-day Iraq), and China are the only cultures proven to invent true writing systems independently from anyone else. Then there’s a few cultures who seemingly took the idea of written language from another culture, but decided to make their own unique system from scratch instead of innovating on an existing one, like Korean Hangul, Cameroonian Bamum, and Egyptian Hieroglyphics, along with other African scripts with fuzzy origins that were probably semi-inspired (but not directly borrowed) from Punic derived scripts, but mostly original and/or evolved from local proto-writing systems. (And then there’s scripts we know almost nothing about their origins, like Tifinagh and the Indus Valley script)
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There is genuine legal, economic, and religious continuity from Rome to later Europe. When the empire fell, all of those systems didn’t just evaporated but carried right in into the systems that would eventually morph into feudalism, with its many complex contractual and democratic structures. The first European ruling classes to rise after Rome were in some cases literally the same manorial powers and in others “barbarians” directly and explicitly emulating the Roman style.
Roman style class systems morphed but continued to expand, supplanting much older and more democratic forms in place throughout Europe, and it was Roman imperial law that acted as the basis to dismantle consultative and communal legal forms, meaning that Roman law became stronger and more rigid after Rome fell (in time, not immediately).
Obviously the Church remained a central power fundamentally oriented around Rome geographically and culturally, with intellectual culture almost entirely Latin until well into the bourgeois era. Rome was every ruler’s source of legitimacy.
Medieval Europe by Chris Wickham is a great Marxist history of this entire process that treats the transition from empire to feudalism with a proper DHM analysis.
Good article, it really is exactly like that here. An imperial outpost, heavily exploited both before and after its liberation from the Ottomans, a whorehouse of a country that survives as the West’s dock, military base, and “exotic” retreat for rich people who will get each of their disgusting desires taken care of, and once in a while its used for its propagandistic value as the birth of “Western Civilization”. Of course the reactionaries within it also chug that Kool Aid and think that they have more in common with Hans who was slaughtering their grandparents some generations ago than they do with Mohammed that arrives here running away from the bomber planes that take off from the NATO bases that occupy our land. That admiration from the West doesn’t last long, they always come back wagging their fingers at the workers saying that they’re lazy and don’t pay enough tax money to be funnelled to Europe, never mind the fact that working 8 hours here is a lucky minority.
Ok.
“…and this is vital, so let me emphasize: it has to be directly to the heart or else it can come back!”
the idea of a single “western civilization/culture” is a ridiculous (mostly) yankee fantasy, there is very little in common between most of the so-called “pillars” of it
Greece: fancy lad navel gazing boy loving slave owners
Rome: imperialist protobourgeios boy loving slave owners
Norse: psychopath raiding murderer slave owners
England: genocidal fancy lad mercantilist slave owners
Spain: genocidal inbred fiscally dumbass slave owners
Italy: parochial banking slave owners
Hold on, I think there might really be a true Western Civilization!!!
“Western Civilization” is the Amerikkkan form of what “Israel” does by claiming a 3000 year ancestry to the land of Palestine, or what Nazi Germany did by framing itself as the “Third Reich.” In all three cases, you have a relatively new national formation, bereft of a common history or a rich cultural canon of its own, but desperate for the imprimatur of historical immortality.
It is all tacky Disney Land bullshit. It has to be, because the claim in all of these cases is to be the Main Character of the totality of human history. It is the pinnacle of hubris.
same with “judeo-christian”. In the 19th century it was a term to describe Jews who converted to Christianity. That’s it. Wasn’t talking about any overarching joint Christian-Jewish shared culture or anything like that.
It wasn’t used in its modern context until the 1930s, when it was invoked heavily by FDR to combat anti-semitism of the Nazis. So the very first use of it was against other Christians, to try and create a united home front that included Catholics, Protestants and Jews. It was never put away because it became a useful tool of anti-communists and zionists, who fearmongered about “irreligion” and atheistic communism coming for them - and to get Christians to join the Zionist cause. It became increasingly Islamophobic and used as a bludgeon against Islam specifically after the Cold War and during the war on terror.
It’s not this thousand years old shared tradition of values. Jews and Protestants and Catholics went through periods of bitter hatred and also mostly peaceful coexistence all around the world, but they never considered themselves all under the same umbrella until the modern age Liberalism and Zionism forced them into a group that is incoherent in almost all ways except that it has utility for white supremacy and American imperialism.
Weebs vindicated for not being the most cringe subculture out there, the mantle goes to marble bust guys.
Where is
to bite a fascist when you need emBit idea: keep placing ancient Athenian fertility statues closer and closer to Rubio as he speaks.
NSFW (tastefully carved twig 'n berries):
Theyre not fertility statues. They were like… talisman. Protective. Good luck charms. Also built around important things and places of travel.
Also I dont think they were a uniquely athenian thing Also they developed from like… boundary markers.
according to this, you’re right not uniquely athenian
https://en.natopedia.org/wiki/Herm_(sculpture)
But they were definitely in Athens because Alcibiades got got for messing them up.
Take note kids, this is how you get work to pay for your holiday.
The “debate” over whether Greece was ever western was conclusively settled in the negative on the date of April, 1204
Look I was just smoking the western stakes like I was told… Oh. Oh. Smoke the western stakes with Hickory. Sorry I totally got things confused. I probably shouldn’t follow Sublime’s advice about two joints…
Stakes for capitalism.
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