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        5 days ago

        This is really the heart of the issue. AI is a tool, it’s legitimately good at some of it’s tasks and can be a benefit. Unfortunately it’s being used everywhere.

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          6 days ago

          Would you use a drill to fit screws on sensible components or that required precise and careful fitting?

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            6 days ago

            Probably wouldn’t want to use any old drill in that job. Would need a multi-million dollar specialized drill for that use case.

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              6 days ago

              Let’s refine the question even more: would you put together a watch with a drill?

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                6 days ago

                Yes. CNC machines are fantastic drills for producing watches. Micro-drills are also used to create tiny accurately placed holes in movement plates, bridges, cases, etc. Why do you ask?

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                  5 days ago

                  Would you use a drill to assemble a watch?

                  You are being unnecessarily coy with your replies. You stated that using a drill or a screwdriver have no inherent difference, I am trying to establish there is one using your own argument.

                  The last reply was a shift in your original position. I am not talking about producing parts and components.

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      5 days ago

      Could you please explain in further detail why offloading cognitive labor is equivalent to reducing physical labor? Cognitive and physical labor are two different things: you need to struggle through a challenging problem to build structural thinking capacity for higher-order thinking; skipping fraction math isn’t just saving physical energy but skips building the schemas needed for calculus, linear algebra, and so on. Using a drill over a screwdriver just saves your arm muscles, and it doesn’t condition you to expect wood to screw itself together without your input.

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        5 days ago

        You still have to use the correct drill bits, so you have to know how to properly use a drill, but since those same tools are available as hand tools, its lazy to use a drill.

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          Imagine a world where a company invents an Automated Robotic Sculpting Arm.

          You don’t need to hold a chisel or hammer anymore. You simply stand in front of a block of marble and speak to the robot using natural language: “Sculpt me a realistic human torso, slightly leaning forward, capturing a sense of tension.”

          A novice steps up to the machine. They have never touched clay, never studied human anatomy, never felt the resistance of marble grain, and never made a mistake that chipped off an irreplaceable nose.

          The robot chisels out a figure in seconds.

          A veteran sculptor walks by and points out: “The muscle attachment at the collarbone is anatomically impossible, and the weight distribution makes the statue structurally unsound—it will tip over in a high wind.”

          The novice replies: “No problem! I don’t need to know anatomy or physics. I’ll just refine my prompt!”

          So the novice turns to the robot and says: “Fix the collarbone so it looks anatomically correct, and adjust the weight distribution so it won’t tip over.”

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            The master sculptor will eventually die and that hard learned knowledge and finesse will be lost. The pointed details will be locked into a fixed context and become immutable and untransferable to other works which will eventually lead to only the same exact sculptures will be made. Sculpture ceases to be an expression on individual understanding of reality and becomes a standardized product.

            Writing that made my stomach churn. It is nightmare fuel.

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            5 days ago

            Ok you win. Everything I do needs to be a chisel and hammer and I must be a master of every trade I do. I wont use a drill ever again.

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          If you use a drill where a screwdriver is required then you are just going to break things. A great deal of the time using a drill is the absolute dumbest thing you could do and is not just detrimental to your goals but a demonstration of incompetence.

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              Have you? Do you think that’s some kind of gotcha? Some of us have jobs or hobbies that require us to use all kinds of real tools alongside our brains to do and make real things. Do you even know what the settings on a drill control?

              You not understanding a drill doesn’t mean drills are hard to understand.