• toast@retrolemmy.com
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    18 days ago

    Oh, I’m sure my examples weren’t the best. This was all off the top of my head.

    There are better examples, I think, but they come from shows where the cast was large enough and the plots complex enough that the drama of the show wasn’t as necessarily centered on husband/wife conflict. Many shows aren’t like this and in these, if you have a competent partner, most likely you will be a buffoon.

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      18 days ago

      I dunno… kinda seems like you’re off an a tangent there, which is a very interesting tangent IMO, but still not really what I was trying to focus in on.

      I’m not gonna state my theme point ad nauseam, but I suspect there are some very significant reasons why shows like The Honeymooners were rare in terms of the skewed husband-wife dynamic. Patriarchy probably being first. Patriarch and patriarchical tradition across pop media.

      That is the real point I was trying to get at, explaining why it took so very long for a show like The Simpsons to finally break through.

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        18 days ago

        Ah, I see. Because your original comment seemed to confine the question to American media and TV specifically, I thought your interest was more in the mechanics of storytelling in that genre than it was.

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          18 days ago

          I thought your interest was more in the mechanics of storytelling in that genre than it was.

          OMG, no… that would be a Titanic-sized issue to try to tackle!