Oh, I’m sure my examples weren’t the best. This was all off the top of my head.
There are better examples, I think, but they come from shows where the cast was large enough and the plots complex enough that the drama of the show wasn’t as necessarily centered on husband/wife conflict. Many shows aren’t like this and in these, if you have a competent partner, most likely you will be a buffoon.
I dunno… kinda seems like you’re off an a tangent there, which is a very interesting tangent IMO, but still not really what I was trying to focus in on.
I’m not gonna state my theme point ad nauseam, but I suspect there are some very significant reasons why shows like The Honeymooners were rare in terms of the skewed husband-wife dynamic. Patriarchy probably being first. Patriarch and patriarchical tradition across pop media.
That is the real point I was trying to get at, explaining why it took so very long for a show like The Simpsons to finally break through.
Ah, I see. Because your original comment seemed to confine the question to American media and TV specifically, I thought your interest was more in the mechanics of storytelling in that genre than it was.
Oh, I’m sure my examples weren’t the best. This was all off the top of my head.
There are better examples, I think, but they come from shows where the cast was large enough and the plots complex enough that the drama of the show wasn’t as necessarily centered on husband/wife conflict. Many shows aren’t like this and in these, if you have a competent partner, most likely you will be a buffoon.
I dunno… kinda seems like you’re off an a tangent there, which is a very interesting tangent IMO, but still not really what I was trying to focus in on.
I’m not gonna state my theme point ad nauseam, but I suspect there are some very significant reasons why shows like The Honeymooners were rare in terms of the skewed husband-wife dynamic. Patriarchy probably being first. Patriarch and patriarchical tradition across pop media.
That is the real point I was trying to get at, explaining why it took so very long for a show like The Simpsons to finally break through.
Ah, I see. Because your original comment seemed to confine the question to American media and TV specifically, I thought your interest was more in the mechanics of storytelling in that genre than it was.
OMG, no… that would be a Titanic-sized issue to try to tackle!