{ Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) said Sunday he wants President Biden to stand down on his 2024 Democratic presidential primary bid to give another Democrat a shot at the White House.

Why it matters: Phillips has previously called on others to challenge Biden in the 2024 Democratic nomination but is not committing himself to running as of yet.

  • “I would like to see Joe Biden, a wonderful and remarkable man, pass the torch — cement this extraordinary legacy,” Phillips said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday.
  • “And by the way, this is not how everybody thinks, but I do believe the majority wants to move on,” he added.
  • Phillips said his views on Biden stepping down are not based on the president’s age but rather “how people feel.”

By the numbers: 56% of U.S. adults said they had an unfavorable opinion of Biden, compared to just 32% of those with favoring opinions on the president, according to a CNN poll in June.

  • Prospective voters in the CNN poll also had an unfavorable view of former President Donald Trump at 59%.
  • An April poll from NBC News revealed that 70% of Americans think Biden should not seek another term. Of those responses, 51% came from Democrats.
  • 60% of those polled by NBC also thought Trump shouldn’t run for president again. Of those, a third identified themselves as Republican voters.
  • “Joe Biden right now is down seven points in the four swing states that will decide the next election,” said Phillips, who also pointed to Biden’s historically low approval numbers.
  • Phillips added that he’s not saying Biden is “not up to a second term,” but that the numbers reflect that Americans want change and a new Democratic candidate. }
    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      no. Phillips has no chance.
      He’s just saying the quiet part out loud. Biden is the compromise canidate nobody likes but everybody voted for precisely because he’s milquetoast and soooo much better than the turnips the pubies put forward

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        everybody voted for precisely because he’s milquetoast

        I voted for him in spite of him being milquetoast.

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          well, kinda, yeah. My point is he wasn’t particularly offensive to anyone (which is exactly why he was chosen as Obama’s VP… you don’t pick controversial VP’s, generally.) which is exactly the reason he became the nominee in 2020, and will be again.

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      I appreciate him having the courage to say what everyone thinks, I don’t now who it would be, I’m sure there are many viable candidates who would step forward, but Biden is not a safe bet in 2024.

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        The incumbent president always runs. Just being the president gets them a ton of votes. If he was going to step down, he’d have to do it after winning the next election, making his VP the president

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          The incumbent president always runs.

          Not always. Yes, usually, but definitely not always. See, for example, in the last 100 years:

          • Johnson in 1968 (he knew he had no chance against RFK and had alienated a lot of the base with the escalation of the war in Vietnam)

          • Truman in 1952 (low polling because of the war in Korea and other domestic issues)

          • Coolidge in 1928 (“The Presidential office takes a heavy toll of those who occupy it and those who are dear to them. While we should not refuse to spend and be spent in the service of our country, it is hazardous to attempt what we feel is beyond our strength to accomplish.”)

          Granted, all three of these men served more than one full term in office because they each had taken over after the previous president had died, but each had the ability to run for an additional term and chose not to. Anyway, it is no more true that the incumbent president always runs than it is true that the VP always runs for the presidency at the conclusion of that term.

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        If the DNC didn’t hate the idea of a progressive candidate that would follow through with all the progressive policies that the American people overwhelmingly support on both sides of the aisle then you might get a good candidate and blow the GOP out for a decade or two.

        Instead the DNC realize their only way to continue to exist and get money is to sell out the public good for the rich, which makes them no better than the Republicans.

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          That’s exactly it. They seem to think never losing another election is a realistic option without also embracing a FDR style populism.

          It’s like Cornel West says:

          Milquetoast Neoliberalism Can Never Defeat Fascism

          If they’re so threatened by this guy, maybe they should embrace medicare 4 all or marijuana legalization, the Green New Deal etc. That’s ^^ the bare minimum really

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            It would be a lot easier for dems to do anything if there weren’t 47 democratic senators (+ Manchin), 49 Republicans and 3 independents…

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              Absolutely, which is why the Democrats need to embrace progressive policies that are supported by the vast majority of americans like Universal Healthcare and Marijuana Legalization.

              Also, how did LBJ pass the Civil Rights Act when half of his own party were Dixiecrats?