hey! I went on reddit to invite people over here on a subreddit…
And asked if someone would be interested to create maintain a magazine/community that don’t exist here. I got shit over…
Thoughts?
links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IASIP/comments/14gbtkg/found_an_iasip_community_in_the_fediverse/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCinemassacreTruth/comments/14gayv6/anyone_willing_to_manage_a_lemmykbin/
one shared my post elsewhere to laugh at me:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CinemassacreTruth/comments/14gcnmk/anyone_willing_to_manage_a_lemmykbin/
I don’t think proselytizing is necessary anymore; we’ve got enough folks on here now to get a sustainable community going, other people gradually finding their way over here over the next year or two (much as it happened with digg) is much better than a crazy server-destroying / spam-proliferating rush.
Reddit was perfectly enjoyable a decade ago with 10% as many users, we don’t need very many of them to be able to offer a worthy reddit replacement to anybody who seeks one. (plus I suspect within 6 months or so we’ll have way better apps than reddit does)
100%. the level of comments kbin are blowing my mind, actual discussion. debate. different perspectives. people writing full sentences and explaining their thoughts.
instead of people being banned and insulted for having a differing opinion. or being told they are mean and bad people.
the 3rd grader level of discourse on reddit didn’t exist 10+ years ago. it happened only after the site because a household name.
Maybe it’s silly, but i love that I haven’t seen a single one-word reply such as “*their”.
EDIT: omg, what about those infinite threads of “this” or forced puns? Haven’t seen those either (and I love bad puns, but those usually contributed very little)
I mostly agree, but I do think there’s a certain sense of collective accomplishment when you pull off a 37-deep comment thread with lines from a song or whatever.
Also: This was a triumph.
I’m making a note here: Huge Success!
It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction.
Aperture science
We do what we must, because we can!
This.
This.
Thℹ️s.
;) Here Here!
Could 100% tell it was going to hell the past while, knew it was mainstream for several years now, ever since I started hearing radio hosts talk about Reddit. However, a few months ago I was helping my mom with something, and I glanced at her phone to see Reddit open. That’s when I thought “Oh. Reddit’s over”.
Reading those comments in the threads OP posted reminded me how childish and toxic Reddit is. I haven’t touched Reddit since this whole thing began and I’ve really been enjoying my time here on kbin. People actually communicate here. Those threads are typical Reddit downvote dog piling bullshit. It’s so stark to me now after being away from it for awhile.
@polygon@kbin.social people have got used to the manipulative toxic mainstream social media and their ads and algorithms, that when they join fediverse or Thread inverse, they rediscover that none of that crap is really necessary and they were imposed on us so long ago that they felt normal. But they are not
I suspect in 8 days we will have better apps than Reddit does.
It’s also a bit bothersome if you’re there. The people who stay are probably aware of the alternatives, but also don’t feel like moving, so people going over and trying to get them to join Kbin/Lemmy are the equivalent of people asking you to join the Church on the street. Having the alternate community on the sidebar, or if the sub shuts down is fine, but probably not a good idea to shove things into people’s faces.
You’re already aware that the Church exists, and the advertising is not going to make them want to join it any time soon. If anything quite the opposite, or it’ll make them want to cause trouble just out of spite.
I mean, it’s arguably true that anything that makes Reddit more annoying to use is a good thing, regardless of if it helps any alternative.
It’s become a divide.
Pirates are more likely to end up on Lemmy, while streamers are more likely to remain on Reddit.
What I am saying is there are people who don’t care and will give their money and attention to easy to learn, and easy to consume services.
While the other people refuse to feed into corporate greed, and seek frugal affairs which require a little more time and patience.
Unfornately as I have been witnessing there are so many people who continue to use Reddit, and will always use Reddit. These are the people who probably started using Reddit within the past 5 years, and were unaware of third party apps.
The only Reddit they know is new Reddit, and Reddit through the app. Often these people will happily pay a monthly fee for no ads and premium features.
The long term users are the ones that have seen it through its stages, we remember when the upvotes and downvotes were accurate, and were instantly visible, we remember when there were less rules for posting, less bots, and accurate karma points on posts.
Now it’s all rigged, and AI driven.
The people who see through it, and want to get their voice back, and a sense of genuine community are the ones that end up on here.
Anyone who still continues to use Reddit I have less respect for, especially if they are aware of the alternatives.
I dont even think is just like that bc someone made a post about the response from users of the piracy subreddit to the blackout, and those there also were saying things like, that those who left are mod boots lickers. I don’t know if it’s so much ab your interests, bc there are people who care and people who dont in probably every group. Probably bc a lot of people against what spez is doing already left, so the ones left are mostly those who support spez or apathetic *tho not all of them
Your intentions are good, but to be fair to the reddit crowd, the way your post was written reads a lot like an advertisement. Trying to convince others like this is typically unproductive - people will just go to wherever the content is. It’s up to all of us to generate that content and give them a reason to migrate out of their comfort zone.
You should just start up a magazine yourself if you want one to exist, even if you’ve never moderated before. It’s not that big a deal at this early stage and if it grows big enough, you can always hand it off to someone else.
i didn’t know i could give the magazine over to someone else… sweet!
And yeah… after a while it felt a little like i was a jehovah’s witness knocking at their door at 6 am.
To be fair, that one guy was right to laugh.
It’s one thing to invite people, that’s good! It’s really bad to ask them to do some really heavy lifting for something they barely know anything about though.
i thought there might have been someone in the subreddit that is also a kbin/lemmy user that could do create magazine
You tried to rationalize with CinemasacreTruthers.
That was your mistake
“how much does it pay? $$$” lol.
What a sad iteration of the Internet we live in. Part of me wants to roll my eyes and call that person a stupid kid. Another part of me knows it actually pays to be vigilant to shit like this, because reddit is absolutely rampant with bots and trolls. Sad that a person can’t just spread the word about something they enjoy anymore without there being some mundane - yet still somehow nefarious, ulterior motive behind it.
And how much does reddit pay?
We’ll pay you 10x what Reddit is currently paying mods!!
People generally are lazy and will want stuff that works, so inertia is a thing.
And asked if someone would be interested to create maintain a magazine/community that don’t exist here. I got shit over…
And yes, you will get shit because you’re asking people without an investment in the new platform to do work for free. That’s not going to happen, regardless of the situation.
It seems like the only people left on reddit will be jerks and trolls which is fine by me. You are in the right place ignore the haters.
Pretty much. Like Twitter, the leadership is forcing a distillation of the userbase into the worst of the worst. Like 4chan, brought to you by Condé Nast. Going to be fun to watch from our nice balcony over here.
They should let those people pay to have their comments appear first, that’s been working out great on the bird site.
You’re not alone, I tried to do the same thing in a hardcore/emo band sub and i got lots of hate and a suicide watch automated email from Reddit, what the fuck is wrong with people?
I think it’s better this way. It means those toxic bunch won’t come here, and when they do we can clown on people (including the Reddit bootlickers) if you still need to vent.
I tried reading the replies to gain context but it just sounds like cryptobro nonsense so i checked out
I’m an older millennial, and I don’t understand this trend lately of labeling anything slightly technical as “crypto/techbro” shit. It’s like people see the word “server” or “IP address” or some shit and just get triggered by it. WTF? Can someone explain this trend? Back in my youth we didnt mind learning new shit, you HAD to in order to make effective use of your time online. That’s how the early Internet was built. By “techie” people.
I mean, I’m not a certified mechanic and have zero interest in working on cars, but I figured out how to change my own timing belt with a youtube tutorial.
I agree with you, but I think this is more an issue with the way crypto and its advocates have firehose-marketed that corner of technology, than an issue with laymen who aren’t interested. Crypto, web 3.0, etc. have been hyped as the future of the internet, coopting general concepts like decentralization as belonging to scheme-y crypto stuff rather than just a principle that crypto (ostensibly) aligns with.
I never got into any of that myself and am hyper-skeptical of it, but (hopefully) I know enough to determine that the Fediverse is not on the same plane as all that. I also wouldn’t blame anyone who can’t tell the difference.
I don’t know if its directly related to the present reaction, but us older millenials grew up with a different exposure to computers and the internet. It was still evolving so much, we had to figure it out. Younger millenials and Zoomers especially never had to deal with all of that - most of what they grew up on were iPhones and iPads and Chromebooks where everything is apps and userfriendly and “just works.” For example, Zoomers don’t even understand how file systems work. They never had to deal with them. It might not make sense to us, but the phrase “federated servers” is probably gibberish to a lot of younger folks.
All the polite people are already here, lol
I’m genuinely surprised at how well behaved people are. I’ve only run across a single case so far of somebody being deliberately annoying.
I’ve seen a few spam bots, but most of the bothersome people are probably kept out either by curation, the barrier of entry, or are simply on their own instances.
Did you see the post a couple of days ago that showed ai language bots replying in reddit threads?
The admins are making bots shit on alternatives and downplay the protests. There’s a very real possibility that you’re being responded to by ai.
The loudest aren’t the majority. The loudest are often shills, trolls or AI bots. Just post that there’s an alternative, leave the link, and walk away. There will be people coming and joining quietly, in my experience.
Ok the person who said “sorry for not understanding something that is only popular with nerds” made me laugh because… Bro you are on reddit. You are using the outdated nerd gathering place to complain about nerds?
I will never in my life understand people that think of intelligence and curiosity as negative traits.
Holy. The people in the comments of those posts are completely insufferable. I haven’t seen this much concentrated idiocy in one place in a while, and I’ve been on reddit for close to a decade.
Don’t pay attention to these pricks, OP. All the interesting people are leaving reddit even now, and all that’s left are the wretches who made that site a terrible place to be even long before the API controversy. It’s not worth even trying to invite these people here. They’d only make the fediverse worse with their presence.
Yeah it actually makes me feel like there’s some astroturf going on. The “reddit defense” backlash seemed to start very suddenly, some while after spez’s comments about how the blackout wasn’t hurting them got popularized and people started renewing the subreddit blackouts. Almost everyone seemed at least tenatively supportive up to that point, then suddenly these waves of hardcore “reddit did nothing wrong, won’t someone PLEASE think of the profits! Everything’s fine, just keep posting here, fellow users!” HailCorporate-style comments start pouring into every subreddit and every thread talking about the issue seemingly simultaneously. These is something that seems deeply disingenuous about all of those comments.
Yeah I saw the thread where dndnext announced they were gonna do the John Oliver thing and everyone in the comments was complaining. Even though the poll showed overwhelming support. Almost like the comments were being astroturfed
I observed this too. Almost two weeks ago (when all of this started blowing up) the overwhelming majority of people who were talking about jumping that sinking ship were upvoted and supported. Folks were discussing the best platforms to migrate to, etc. Then a few days ago I noticed all of sudden a heap of really negative anti-fediverse comments had cropped up. While I’m not some all seeing eye that can perceive all Reddit comments and analyse the data, it was such a big, stark and sudden shift.
I realise it seems cynical and entering into conspiracy theory territory but I like to think I’ve lived through enough of the interwebs at this point (I was on BBS’ before the internet was a thing in my country) and rationally learned enough about corporate corruption, astroturfing and fake reviews to be at least suspicious that something more is going on.
