oh boy, it’s almost as though people who immigrated out of their socialist country into the far-right United States had a political motive for the move, and therefore aren’t the authorities on the conditions of the country they left.
When an anti-com says “yeah but Cuban immigrants” I really wish I could simply take them to Cuba so they could talk to actual Cubans.
I forget the statistic, but a majority of Chinese citizens are happy with their government. That’s real Chinese citizens, living in China, right now. But, sure, listen to the guy who’s the grandson of someone who fled the country before Socialism could start to be built. They’re clearly the person to be listening to. Like, their fuckin’ grandfather was probably part of the reason the revolution needed to happen.
Really the whole “yeah but my friend is [Cuban/Chinese/Ex-SR nationality/etc.] so they’re right” argument strikes me in much the same way the “I have a black friend so I’m not racist” argument does.
People who left will also have certain bitterness toward the homeland. They will not hope to see their homeland develop better as that will make them question their choices. Hence the bias.
I moved from Poland to Italy and Italy to Germany and truth be told, I’m mostly just sad of how these countries turned out.
I forget the statistic, but a majority of Chinese citizens are happy with their government.
It’s 90% lmao
From a study done by Harvard
As a Chinese immigrant I think Communism is great.
I’ve been finding that in recent years the goal of Chinese students in universities in my patch of the West has shifted from “get a degree and settle down” to “get a degree and go home”.
That’s not to say that I don’t still occasionally encounter the “I want out of China at any cost” types, but I certainly think there’s fewer of them.
May i ask why did you decide to move?
I didn’t, my parents moved here before I was born. However they are generally pretty pro-China----my dad has Mao books and my mom is willing to buy me translated theory from China. I’ll probably move back to China after I graduate, if possible.
Did they ever tell you why they decide to move?
Currency exchange rates wild af
Diaspora communities usually send money back home. You can get a lot of food on the table for your whole side of the family if you can get an engineering job.
Jobs. I don’t want to say any more because I’m afraid of getting doxxed lol.
I have no reason to believe that a Chinese or Cuban expat will have anything good to say about the communism they’re “fleeing” specifically for the charged verb involved. “Fleeing” implies loss; which in a burgeoning Communist society, means their family was fucking around; and is now finding out. No reason to believe anything they say is in good faith.
Now, the ones only here to study and then go back? I really want to talk with them.
Plenty, yeah. But also, plenty of people leave or are forced to leave their countries during revolution because revolutions and the periods after are violent times full of chaos. It takes a while for these countries to stabilize. It’s not always an ideological thing.
Why would I care what some
thinks? I have more in common with the 99% of Cubans who stayed on the island than the opportunists and scoundrels who fledContext of that picture is absolutely hilarious.
The girl in that picture is like a “left”-liberal (I think) protesting in favor of the #SOSCuba protests, and was surprised that far-righters were there with her.
Impressive.
Let’s see what actual Cuban and Chinese citizens have to say.
lol i always like to imagine how it would sound if the roles were reversed: “Oh you think capitalism is that great? Well, go ask some american and british immigrants”
“Oh you think nationalism is a great idea? Wait a moment, I know a guy from Poland.”
I mean you gotta put yourself in their shoes, communists took all their fancy mansions, and their capital, and even had the temerity to take their slaves away.
My grandparents lost their egg monopoly in China
