Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed that Israel will stand alone and “fight with our fingernails” in defiance of US threats to further restrict arms deliveries if Israeli forces proceeded with an offensive on the southern Gazan city of Rafah.

Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, was speaking on Thursday after Israeli and Hamas delegations left the ceasefire negotiations in Cairo.

It was unclear whether the talks had broken down or simply paused, but the failure to reach an agreement on this week’s round of meetings raised apprehension of an imminent Israeli attack on Rafah.

Netanyahu appeared to shrug off a public warning from the US president, Joe Biden, the previous night that if the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a major offensive on the city the US would not provide bombs and artillery shells to support the operation.

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    Ridiculous that Biden is changing policy due to students protesting a war just because the aggressor/initiator is losing badly. He’s lost their votes already.

    Hoping they take Rafah soon and eliminate every last Hamas jihadist and hopefully get some hostages back alive

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        Never used Truth Social. Isn’t that for the far right?

        You’re completely wrong. Im just against extreme religious terrorism. Strange that you think that makes me far right

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          If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck and spends it’s time denying the ongoing genocide in Palestine like a duck, then I’ll call it a duck

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            You are deluded if you think supporting Israel in its right to defend itself against Islamic Jihadist terrorists is exclusive to the far right. By your definition Biden must be on Truth social too

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              The fact you had to argue a completely different point instead of the one I’m actually making shows that you KNOW your position is morally indefensible.

              We both know that Israel invading palesting and killing thousands of children isn’t “self defence”.

              We both know Israel restricting humanitarian aid from entering palestine, thus causing a man made famine, is not them defending themselves.

              Everyone here knows you are not arguing in good faith. Including yourself, so why are you wasting your time? Are you doing a “le epic troll”? Are you just an edgy contrarian? Or something else? Please, tell me.

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      Taking Rafah… Rafah has been occupied for the better part of a century, my dude, they’re not taking land to root out terrorists. They’re just killing people for the sake of killing people.

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          There’s a post about another mass grave found at a hospital a few scrolls above this

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            It’s horrible, but there are mass deaths in a war. If Hamas surrendered themselves the war would end.

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              There will always be a hamas, because when you commit human rights violations against an oppressed occupied people for so long that’s what you get. Israel is the architect of its own misery here

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                Oppressed people would not be decapitating innocent people, murdering a pregnant woman then cutting out the baby, all the while doing it with pleasure and chanting to their god. It’s doing gods work, not because they’re oppressed.

                Yes innocent people get killed in a war, but it’s not the intention. For Hamas, killing any Jewish people is the intention. You’re a terrorism apologist

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                  Nice to meet you genocide apologist. How many children’s hospitals did you bomb today?

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                    There’s no genocide, but there are childrens hospitals loaded with Hamas military weapons. Terrorists don’t give a damn about those children, but it gains them great supporters like your good self.

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              Actually, the percentage rate at which people are dying in Palestine exceeds that of WWII. They’ve also got the most dead reporters in such a short timeframe, perhaps ever recorded.

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                Which figures are you using? Hamas figures can be taken with a pinch of salt. The best approximation I saw was 3:1 non combatants to combatants which as awful as it sounds is actually very good for dense urban warfare.

                Hamas are not fighting like a regular countries army would fight. They do not care for their own civilians

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              there are mass deaths in a war

              What is happening in Gaza right now is abnormal by so many metrics, including % of children killed, % of civilians, and number of reporters. It’s far from normal even in context of the more chaotic wars in history. Stop trying to normalize it.

              If Hamas surrendered themselves the war would end.

              Do you really think that after Israel just brutally murdered thousands of innocent young people’s families, they’re going to want peace? What Israel is doing right now is making sure that there’s going to be a fresh wave of “terrorists” down the line. If you actually want lasting peace, what is going on right now makes absolutely no sense

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                Show your source for those figures. If it’s the Gaza Health Ministry you should know it’s controlled by Hamas, whose interest it is in to tell you all the dead are women and children to gain international sympathy. Looks like their propaganda is working

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                  Let me turn that right around on you: What are your sources that dispute the Gazan numbers? I find it hard to believe that anyone is in a better position to count casualties than the body running the hospitals in the affected region.

                  Of course the numbers from all sides always need to be taken with a grain of salt, but GHM numbers are generally trusted by the UN, US government and media, and have been found to be accurate in numerous Western (aka Israel-friendly) studies. I don’t know how much more you want.

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              It wouldn’t end the war, Israel will keep re-categorizing Palestinians as “the enemy” to justify their extermination campaign.

              You have to keep in mind that the reason the Palestinians voted Hamas into power was a direct reaction to Israeli hostility.

              It existed before Hamas, and will continue after Hamas.

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          If you think Israel does not want any civilian casualties in Gaza, ask yourself some of these questions:

          1. Why have more than half of the homes in Gaza been demolished?
          2. Why has Israel shelled hospitals and refugee camps?
          3. Why has Israel intentionally crippled Agriculture in Palestine?
          4. Why has Isreal limited the amount of water and electricity available in Gaza?
          5. Why do the aid trucks entering Gaza have an average wait time of 20 days? Does it take you 20 days to search a vehicle?
          6. Why have the IDF opened fire on crowds gathering around those trucks delivering food?
          7. What country did Hamas weapons travel through to get there? It wasn’t Egypt, as the former Muslim Brotherhood, whom Hamas is a branch off of, in Egypt was overthrown a decade ago.

          Netanyahu allowed Gaza to arm themselves. Netanyahu ignored warnings of the attack in October. Netanyahu allowed them to enter from multiple directions while the best surveillance system on Earth suddenly became useless. Netanyahu brought you this war.

          If your goal was to kill as many civilians as possible without risk to your “own people” nearby, then you would operate this war much like Netanyahu has. I believe he would have napalmed the entire region if the rest of the world weren’t threatening sanctions and intervention.