A significant number of people in the SS only supported, empowered, and enabled the murder… 🙄
“Not every civilian in the NAZI Party was a Nazi”.
By definition, yes they were. I have to admit, I don’t think I have ever heard someone make the claim that “the nazi is actually not a nazi” before. They usually try to put a little bit more effort into it.
Look, unless they were personally convicted at Nuremberg, who can say who was a nazi?
And by definition every SS soldier was a Nazi because the SS was the paramilitary branch of the actual Nazi party.
They are making this error on purpose, because that’s the only way they can present that an SS soldier wasn’t a Nazi.
True, but as always, reality was even more complex.
Initially, yes absolutely. SS members were absolutely nazis. Exceptions either became nazis very fast or had deadly accidents (being killed by their peers).
As the overture to WW2 started playing, things got muddier. Germany aquired territories whos people were not german citizens according the bonkers laws they had, likewise non-german voluteers started showing up. The problem was that only german citizens could serve in the Wehrtmacht. Fear not, we germans are inventive! So Volksdeutsche (ethnic germans, but not german citizens) tended to get force conscripted into the SS and the SS was more than happy to receive “aryan” volunteers (brits, yanks, nordics, benelux, french).
As the War finally started and soon went bad for germany in the USSR, Germany tried to make sense of various nationalist movements willing to fight for it and the collaborateurs. This repeated the situation mentioned above. With the exact same solution: Collaborateurs went directly to the SS. Teh nationalists posed a problem, they were not exactly “aryan”, but Indian, Bosnia, Serbian, Cossak, Russia, Chechen and so on. So the SS was effectively partitioned: The “aryan” fanatics went to the “chapter SS”(only true with occult bullshit), got the highest status. The collaborateurs and force conscripted guys were footslogger SS scrubs. Leaves the rest. They were grouped into “SS legions” and essentially cannon fodder.
By the end of the war, the force conscription became even weirder. The education minister gifted Hitler (and thus the SS) a entire graduation year of students. Because germany is not only the country of thinkers and poets, sometimes also of stoned thinkers.
So we’re at the point where libs are claiming that not all Nazi party members were Nazis. Not sure where they go from here
Clean wehrmacht myth is making a comeback.
That myth was only possible because it used the SS as the greater evil.
I wonder what they are gonna reference as greater evil when they just coined the clean SS myth.
Oh, silly me, USSR of course.
Yup. It’s deeply jokerifying when I remember how 10 years ago “WW2 enthusiasts” who were suspiciously enthusiastic about the Wehrmacht (which they insisted was not not political, they just like history) would always point to the SS as the designated evil warcriminals while insisting that regular German troops were innocent conscripts. Nazi narratives of WW2 have become so normalized so fast that we are now in the clean SS stage of revisionism. Which is something that 10 years ago we would joke about. What a shitty timeline to live in.
I’m pretty sure it’s tankies who would be making excuses for Nazis. What “libs” are doing this? All Nazis are and were scum. Especially true for anyone in modern times calling themselves one. I suppose a VERY forgiving person could give some 1930s ones a pass based on some really stretchy reasoning around “they thought it was hyperbole.” Not me.
Save the world, punch a Nazi.
I’m pretty sure it’s tankies who would be making excuses for Nazis.
You’re an idiot then.
What “libs” are doing this?
The ones in Canadian parliament, and the thousands upon thousands of their supporters you can easily find defending them.
The only positive thing I can say about nazis is that they are really fun to shoot in video games
What “libs” are doing this?
Literally the guy in the screenshot??? You understand he’s doing this in defense of the Canadian Parliament applauding a guy who was in the SS right?
I’m pretty sure it’s tankies who would be making excuses for Nazis. What “libs” are doing this?
The first thing the Nazi’s did upon obtaining power was exterminate “Tankies” they were let into power by liberals for that express purpose.
Canada’s Parliament and prime minister, along with Zelensky, gave a standing ovation to a living waffen SS member in Canada as a ‘Ukrainian nationalist that fought against Russia in WW2.’
No one is a tankie. I bet you can’t even define the word. You also apparently are unaware of current events.
What “libs” are doing this?
Justin Trudeau. The Canadian Parliament. And many more defending the SS member they gave a standing ovation to
Sorry fellow Tankies, Justin is one of us now.
The apple finally returns to the tree.
Can you name a single instance of political confluence between tankies and fascists? Communists were the first targets of the nazis, the axis powers formally called themselves the “Anti-COMINTERN Pact”.
I could rattle off countless instances of liberals praising, enabling, funding, arming, and befriending fascists, but we’d be here all day.
It frustrates me to no end when people cluelessly argue that since doctors and pencil pushers and janitors are also in militaries, that somehow makes it better and or even a non-violent institution.
The people who make the food for or distribute the salaries of imperialist scum are, by virtue of their material support, also imperialist scum.
Based on this analogy it’s appropriate to call every member of the US and NATO militaries a Nazi.
Wow the SS were actually like the US military? That must mean the SS were the good guys, right?!
“Think about the American military.”
Yeah dude fuckin think about it.
Honestly at this point I prefer a right winger who defends SS for being just like the US Army to a leftist who defends NATO for being totally not Nazis. At least you know where they stand. Is this the horseshoe I’ve been hearing about?
“leftist”
Think about the American military
So about that…
At this point they could argue that the only nazi ever was Hitler who forced every single person in Germany at gunpoint to do everything he wanted oh wait I just described Great Man theory
Hitler was also doing it because Stalin forced him
Ackshually, Stalin forced everyone on the Earth to do his bidding, except those pesky Ukrainians who had the [redacted] power to resist so he had to use his Spoon on them
The way libs understand history, Hitler was an evil sorcerer who put a spell on the Germans to make them do warcrimes and after he died the spell broke and the Germans became wholesome allies.
“Not everyone in the Nazi Party was a Nazi”
These people are nonserious.
Nazism involves stuff like banning people from online forums, hitting people for having different political opinions, saying mean things about white men, promoting feminism and gay rights, opposing the occupation of Palestine, calling for class warfare against the upper classes, and talking about the achievements that Chinese citizens are making regularly.
Just because somebody advocates for a militant, corporate white ethnostate doesn’t make him ‘a Nazi’. That is a preposterous claim to make.