A big difference is that, instead of leaving all content behind because it was only hosted there, you still have a lot of content as only a piece of the federated content disappears (or defederates, or paywalls, w/e)
It’s not just about the content posted by individuals though. The community and relationships built on a centralized platform are also at risk to a much greater degree than they would be on federated social media.
I think it’s less the physical copy so much as the actual legal copyright. A lot of social media platforms have a complex “co-ownership” in terms of copyright when you post images there.
Cara doesn’t enter into that kind of joint ownership, but they enforce extended rights on distribution on the copyright and that the author gives up those distribution rights for things on their platform. That is, you can not use their platform for distribution that violates their terms of distribution. This is how they legally are able to “take down” items they deem incompatible with their platform.
In lots of Federated platforms, the copyright in mostly based on the instance that you join, and the instance shares copies with those who federate with that instance. There’s a lot less legal rights the platform takes upon themselves and mostly leaves a lot to be in the poster’s hands.
One of the thing about AI models scraping online images, it boils down to copyright and ownership. Like if someone was to challenge Meta’s AI model, they can point to their TOS in court as permitting them to have created their model off of other people’s data. Because you the poster agreed to assign particular copyright power to Meta when you posted.
What the person at the very start of this thread (maybe) is indicating is that if Cara is sold off, people will eventually get an email about “updates to the TOS”. In which, continuing to have your media on the site constitutes the assignment of sole distribution rights to the the platform for whatever purposes. Up and moving might be something that can be done, but you have to go through and remove everything, not just stop logging in. Otherwise, the things you leave behind become “their” property in a legal sense.
Same thing that happens if a federated instance goes bad: you leave?
A big difference is that, instead of leaving all content behind because it was only hosted there, you still have a lot of content as only a piece of the federated content disappears (or defederates, or paywalls, w/e)
Do people seriously not keep copies of their finished work anymore? They just post them and delete the local copy?
It’s not just about the content posted by individuals though. The community and relationships built on a centralized platform are also at risk to a much greater degree than they would be on federated social media.
I think it’s less the physical copy so much as the actual legal copyright. A lot of social media platforms have a complex “co-ownership” in terms of copyright when you post images there.
Cara doesn’t enter into that kind of joint ownership, but they enforce extended rights on distribution on the copyright and that the author gives up those distribution rights for things on their platform. That is, you can not use their platform for distribution that violates their terms of distribution. This is how they legally are able to “take down” items they deem incompatible with their platform.
In lots of Federated platforms, the copyright in mostly based on the instance that you join, and the instance shares copies with those who federate with that instance. There’s a lot less legal rights the platform takes upon themselves and mostly leaves a lot to be in the poster’s hands.
One of the thing about AI models scraping online images, it boils down to copyright and ownership. Like if someone was to challenge Meta’s AI model, they can point to their TOS in court as permitting them to have created their model off of other people’s data. Because you the poster agreed to assign particular copyright power to Meta when you posted.
What the person at the very start of this thread (maybe) is indicating is that if Cara is sold off, people will eventually get an email about “updates to the TOS”. In which, continuing to have your media on the site constitutes the assignment of sole distribution rights to the the platform for whatever purposes. Up and moving might be something that can be done, but you have to go through and remove everything, not just stop logging in. Otherwise, the things you leave behind become “their” property in a legal sense.