• Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    I’m a leftist, and I vote for the lesser evil out of harm reduction, with no hope of positive change and just not to be indirectly responsible for there being more political scapegoating by fascists as we collapse due to unchecked encouraged worshipped capitalist greed.

    I just wish the Neoliberals would stop pretending a vote for their cocktail of “socially left, economically whatever Wall Street wants” is going to fix anything. Its a vote for “this is fine.” which is infinitely better than “hate race/religion/sexuality X, they’re why you’re miserable!” but still not helpful.

    Most of the social issue symptoms we scream at each other about are either caused by or greatly exacerbated by the economy Americans don’t get a vote on, as the Neoliberals and the fascists are looooong since legally bribed and paid for with the same economic policy marching orders.

    I just wish we could be honest about our elections and what we do and don’t get a choice on instead of the absolutely absurdist marketing, another side effect of our socioeconomic greed disease.

    Do we want to collapse as we destroy our only habitat (for humans don’t worry, even we can’t sterilize the earth) and any societal framework between one another with® or without(D) a side of race/religious/gender equity wars in the streets being stoked by our greed class captured government?

    That’s all you have to say. Id rather not have that side dish, so I’m voting Biden again.

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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      I’ll vote for harm reduction if it comes down to it but if democrats want an endorsement they’ll have to do more than what they’re doing now.

      I’m not obligated to encourage anyone to vote for the lesser evil so long as the lesser evil still has an opportunity to be less evil.

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        I’m not obligated to encourage anyone to vote for the lesser evil so long as the lesser evil still has an opportunity to be less evil.

        Wow. Literally saying the quiet part out loud - “As long as the Democrats are not 100% in line with my views, it’s okay to endorse inaction and the takeover of a fascist regime on the pretext that the Democrats Aren’t Good Enough™”

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          Wow. Literally saying the quiet part out loud - “Some random bullshit I just made up that hardly resembles what you said”

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            I’m not obligated to encourage anyone to vote for the lesser evil so long as the lesser evil still has an opportunity to be less evil.

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                A lack of endorsement for a thing =! endorsement for the opposite thing

                Oh, when there are only two possible choices, it very much is, whether or not you want to confront that. If there is an infant drowning in an ankle-deep pool in front of you, doing anything other than saving the infant is endorsing its death.

                Before you is a very simple and very easy choice - fascism, or non-fascism. Yet your kind reject non-fascism, every single time. Curious.

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                  Oh, when there are only two possible choices

                  Actually in this context there’s at least 4:

                  • vote for a candidate AND endorse voting for the candidate
                  • don’t vote for a candidate AND don’t endorse voting for the candidate
                  • vote for a candidate AND don’t endorse voting for the candidate
                  • don’t vote for a candidate AND endorse voting for the candidate

                  Nobody has actually ‘voted’ for a candidate yet, all anyone has done thus far is endorse or not endorse voting for a candidate. Just as a reminder:

                  I’ll vote for harm reduction if it comes down to it

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                    Only because of the electoral college you’re entirely wrong here.

                    There are only two choices.

                    1. Biden gets to 270 ec votes
                    2. He doesn’t and trump is appointed by Congress or gets to 270

                    There is no other option in the long run.

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                    Actually in this context there’s at least 4:

                    All of which boil down to “Try to rescue the infant” or “Varying levels of letting the infant drown or hoping someone else will spontaneously see the infant and rescue them in your stead”

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          Democrats have to be perfect. Republicans just have to be on the ballot.