[Idea] If you don’t want to see huge flags taking space over actual drawings in the Canvas, pick the biggest flag that you can find to deface.

As long as a lot of people are doing that, the ones templating larger flags will be forced to reduce their layouts and give more room for actual drawings.

[Reasoning] When it comes to country flags, I think that the immense majority of the users can be split into four groups:

  1. The ones who don’t want to see country flags at all.
  2. The ones who are OK with smaller flags, but don’t want to see larger ones.
  3. The ones who want to see a specific large flag taking a huge chunk of space.
  4. The ones who want to see the whole canvas burning, like the void.

I’m myself firmly rooted into #1, but this idea is a compromise between #1, #2 and #4.

Typically #3 uses numbers (and/or bots) to seize a huge chunk of the canvas to their flags. Well, let’s use numbers against it then. As long as #1, #2 and #4 are trying to wreck the same flag, we win.

[inb4]

But what about identity flags?

Not a problem. They’re typically bands instead of thick squares, and people drawing them are fairly accommodating.

But what about [insert another thing]

Even if [thing] is a problem, it’s probably minor in comparison with huge country flags.

What should be the template?

None. We don’t need one, as long as everyone is working against the same large flag.

Just draw something of your choice over the flag, preferably over its iconic features.

But I’m not creative enough for that!

No matter how shitty your drawing is, it’s probably still way more original than a country flag. So don’t feel discouraged.

That said, you can always help someone else with their drawing. Or plop in some text. Or just void.

Why are you posting this now, you bloody Slowpoke?

I wish that I thought about this before Canvas 2024. But better later than never. (And better early by a year for Canvas 2025.)

EDIT: addressing on general grounds some whining from group #3 (the ones who want to see a specific large flag taking a huge chunk of the canvas space).

You do realise that this sort of “war against the largest flag” should benefit even you, as long as the biggest flag is not the one you’re working with, right? Even for you, this makes the canvas a more even level field. Let us not forget that you love to cover other flags with your own.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyzOP
    310·
    4 months ago

    Due to the purpose of my post, I am focusing solely on the larger flags in the Canvas, a fact that you “conveniently” skipped past. And, instead of trying to proselytise my views, unlike you, I’m trying to gather people with common grounds, even with different views.

    So I’ll let my rambling against flags in general to another opportunity, and focus solely on the Canvas.

    The point of flag is, that they are (usually) easier [to] coordinate, draw and restore.

    In other words: they’re boring and unoriginal, and take space of things that actually take more effort and cooperation to pull out.

    I suppose they [who?] will alway[s] start with the flag because it is our culture but also define a drawing zone.

    Both points are red herrings and you likely know it.

    I disagree with any form of va[n]dalism,

    Cut off the bullshit.

    If you were actually concerned about vandalism you wouldn’t be defending country flags at all, given that they’re the major source of vandalism (more than the void).

    Pick a timelapse of the canvas and see it by yourself.

    but you may invit[e] them drawing their monument :)

    Or alternatively I could tell them that their “monument” (pfffttt… holy fuck calling a dirty flag a “monument” is hilariously cringey) is taking off too much space, and gather other like-minded people to do it.

    That is what I am doing here.

    You’re being at the very least disingenuous, if not worse, so I won’t waste my time further with you.

    • Snoopy@jlai.lu
      101·
      4 months ago

      Well, i find your post very aggressive…

      i didn’t miss your point and wanted to put another point of view on how usefull flag are on a collaborative and competitive space.

      We got our 4 small flag erased because we were french.

      I noticed people start drawing flag, then draw something. Why ? Because it is visual. You are simply telling them : “We are this community, and here is our drawing area.”

      And yes there is conflit due to the lack of space and human ressource.

      It doesn’t dimiss you point, that’s just another point of view. You are right too.

      So from your stance we should erase the major flag : trans flag, germany and rainbow in the same way as Void that erased other people work ? What do you think it will happen ? What do you expect from attacking them ? A pixel war ?

      Will they understand your point ?

      That’s not fun. You can create a group, that’s a good idea. when the canva will start, go to their matrix room and suggest some drawing. But don’t attack them.

      Because if you attack them :

      • people won’t be creative and try to protect their flag. You won’t get any creativity except revenge : they stop drawing and fiqht you back. Unless you suggest them some drawing.
      • you may get a ban once notified
      • your fediverse id may be shared among other admins instance and get banned.
      • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        15·
        4 months ago

        pro-nato clowns spent the entire time hunting down pride flags to cover up, so I don’t think the people running it give a shit about vandalism

        • Snoopy@jlai.lu
          1·
          4 months ago

          we are not fan of flags.

          That’s a problem. I imagine you reported it and got no result because they were on of the most active one ? We reported grief and we got some help.