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    27 days ago

    it’s not incomplete, it’s dumb. the idea of “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” is a complete fantasy. right wing is authoritarian by nature, and left wing is “libertarian” by nature.

    (I’m using lowercase l “libertarian” in a very generic sense, not in the american libertarian “let’s get rid of the age of consent” sense.)

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        27 days ago

        yeah but that just doesn’t work. fiscally conservative policies inevitably result in inequalities and preserve a hierarchical structure that keeps conservative norms intact.

        tbf liberalism is still a right wing position so i shouldn’t say the term is entirely inaccurate, but it’s generally used in the aforementioned lowercase-l libertarian sense, as if someone can be fiscally “right wing” (preserving inequality) and socially “left wing” (promoting equality). that simply cannot be achieved. you cannot achieve equality by preserving inequality.

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          I want commenting on its efficacy. I’m just saying that it happens. Most economic conservatives these days come with a side order of rights oppression: reproductive, gender expression, migrants, etc. Starmer, while being fiscally conservative in that he isn’t going to introduce a programme of economic redistribution, is socially liberal in that he’s pushing back the former government’s “culture war” actions.