• John_McMurray@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      15
      ·
      2 months ago

      Look at all these people making thr same tired fallacious arguments like they’ve been trained, bud. I’m not sure they’re even real people. Rag on Americans, bring up Scandinavian happiness, pretend out system works out of misguided patriotism, and ignore how I mentioned Mexico too.

      • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        So, start making arguments that are based in fact that refute what they are saying. I see a lot of comments by you but nothing of substance.

        • John_McMurray@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          2 months ago

          Sure. You know how when you need a dentist you either pay or have private insurance, but because it’s private, you can actually get the care you need in a reasonable time frame? You realize that’s because it’s not a government monopoly? I’m not playing your fucking “source” game when anyone honest can see what’s going on.

          • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            No source, no facts

            For years now my dentist (who runs a private business) can’t get me an appointment every 6 months like recommended because he’s too busy, I had to wait months for a repair, same experience for my girlfriend at another dentist.

            Tons of people haven’t been going to the dentist at all because they couldn’t afford it because it’s private, it’s become so much of an issue that the federal government had to launch the public coverage program.

            https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/231106/dq231106a-eng.htm

            https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/how-often-should-you-go-to-the-dentist-survey-says-many-canadians-aren-t-going-enough-1.6633890

            https://www.healthcoalition.ca/more-than-just-a-plan-it-is-a-lifeline-says-denturist-on-the-canadian-dental-care-plan/

            It’s been a huge success, so much so that dentists can’t keep up with the increased demand. Based on what you’re saying the fact that dental care is private should mean that demand wouldn’t have increased when public coverage started, right? Because private care and private insurance is so much better that everyone gets to go whenever they want and everyone can afford it, right?

            The only person not arguing in good faith and lying here is you. The proof being that you’re just unable to provide sources to back up your claims but you keep arguing.

              • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                2 months ago

                Provide a source showing that it doesn’t cost Americans more, it should be super easy to do it if it’s real.

                  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    2 months ago

                    Funny how you’re saying “Google is right there” and when we provide you the numbers of health care expenses per capita in the USA vs Canada that we find on Google you call us liars.

                    Again, provide a source showing that healthcare spending per capita in the USA is lower than in Canada to prove that our sources are wrong, we’ve tried to find sources saying you’re right but only came up with sources stating the contrary… So… Help us!

                    Gross vs net income isn’t what I’m asking, I’m asking you to show that the total spent per person is lower in the USA because that’s what you keep saying, privatized healthcare should cost less than public healthcare and we’re paying too much. If that’s the case the numbers should be clear, Americans should be spending less per capita than Canadians for healthcare.