• hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    This is comically hyperbolic. Ronald Reagan isn’t even the greatest monster in the history of US presidents. Frankly I’m not even sure he was the greatest monster to serve as president in the second half of the twentieth century.

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      Jeez, have you never been on internet forums where people say things they don’t mean in the most literal sense possible?

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          Because I’m not. I’m just not saying literally he’s a worse monster than tons of other monsters. But I do blame him for a lot of the terrible shit in USA society. And Tatcher for doing the same. They’re both awful. They are two of history’s greatest monsters.

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            If there are a multitude of other monsters, then he is not one of history’s greatest monsters. You could probably name half a dozen more evil world leaders from the twentieth century alone. I was initially thinking of Hitler/Stalin, but honestly even people like Saddam are objectively worse people than Reagan and Thatcher.

            That’s just one century out of recorded history. It’s just an absolutely absurd statement.

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              You’re not very good at interpreting internet comments. I already said it isn’t meant exactly literally. You know who else are some of history’s greatest monsters? Five hundred people who aren’t literally history’s greatest monsters. I’m done going back and forth with you. You either come at it in bad faith or don’t understand what I’m trying to convey.

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          I’m starting to remember that they hated each other. I’m inclined to think it was because he knew Bush Sr held the reigns (having been CIA stooge for Nixon) and had no grasp of play-acting for the people (not an actor like magistrate Reagan)

          The damage done under Reagan was vaster than Reagan had brains or connections to make.

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            I agree with this. Reagan was culpable because he was the damn boss. H.W., Olly North, and a bunch of others were doing all kinds of fucked up shit while he smiled for the camera.

            I think the same thing about Bush Jr.'s time in office. He “aww shucked” his way through shit while Cheney and the crew did irreparable damage. I don’t think either of them felt strongly about anything that didn’t personally affect them and they allowed the road to the 2016 shitshow.

            H.W. was the only conservative who held the reigns while he was president in the last 4 decades and he wasn’t likable enough by the base to get a second term. That’s why they put up “aww shucks” and a crazy demagogue that they could manipulate. Don’t get me wrong, Trump is evil. He just doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together to do the damage that the federalist society and project 2025 wanted/wants all by himself.

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              Solid. Trump is Putin’s prime puppet. Dumbing & diminishing the (self proclaimed) land of democracy & Union. He (Putin) put some shiny social bombs at play in his extension of the cold war. And he’s happy to watch us set them off on ourselves. Even won Elon over to dip in to the charade front.

              Trump is the Cockwomble mascot of robbing his (real & imagined) tenants of time, attention and truth. That’s his (previous) mental limit.