• ChamrsDeluxe@lemmy.world
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    Good insurance won’t, but the problem is, most companies don’t provide “good” insurance. In most cases you are better off without it.

    One company I worked for had the worst insurance I’ve ever seen.

    I paid like $180 per paycheck JUST FOR ME! and I had no co-pay woooooHhhOoooo! Well anytime I’d go to the doctor i’d be fucked, with one visit really sticking out in particular: I went in knowing I had strep throat and just needed a doctors note. Doc took one look (didn’t do any tests or anything because it was really obvious) said "yep, you’ve got strep. " gave me my note, and I was oit of there in like 5 minutes… A week later? A $200 bill…. What…. The…. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!? Yeah bad insurance will ruin you.

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      If you had no co pay you wouldn’t have had a $200 bill ( unless you went out of network and then fuck you for wanting to have a choice)

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        Found the European (or just someone young who doesn’t know much about typical insurance shell-gaming).

        You have no copay, but most insurance plans include any non-preventative visit in the deductable. That means you are responsible for 100% of the bill until your $1500/yr deductible (in as low deductible-plan, a LOT higher in most plans) is reached. To look like they’re actually doing something, they treat the negotiated rate from the doctor’s MSRP as a “discount” (the doctor says $300, the insurance negotiates you to $200). The really ugly irony of that, is that if you were uninsured, many offices would have given you an NP for $70, and some have an “uninsured rate” of like $150.

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            And the irony is that anything not covered (like your responsibility on a coinsure) does not apply to the deductable. Nor do copays.

            Literally the only thing left is “Maximum Out of Pocket”, but they even have ways around that.

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              With the insurance I have now through my company, I already met tge deductible and haven’t been charged extra for anything. It’s really nice!

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            No copay means no copay, what you’re describing is not no copay.

            Yes, “no copay means no copay”. Most insurance plans have BOTH a copay and a deductable on a large number of higher-end services like inpatient surgery and the diagnostics like CT. And I have had, and helped family shop for, healthcare plans that have no copay, but still have a deductable. Further, there’s a lot of PPO variants that have no copay or deductable, but have a coinsurance for everything.

            In my adult life, I have never seen a plan where your “typical” out of pocket for anything other than Primary Care or Teledoc was anywhere near zero, even if those plans approach $3000/mo.

            And you’re right. What I was describing was not a copay, but a deductable (please check the words I used, as I called it a deductable :) ). For a patient, money going out feels the same as money going out. Especially in large quantities.

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              And you’re right. What I was describing was not a copay, but a deductable (please check the words I used, as I called it a deductable :) ).

              Sure but the conversation was about copay ;)

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                Sometimes conversations get confused pretty quickly in thread format. I never understood why, but it IS hard to keep context in Lemmy. Let me reopen with what I was replying to:

                If you had no co pay you wouldn’t have had a $200 bill

                That’s what you opened with. The person above you didn’t use the word “copay” at all. They just complained about being charged $200 to get a note. Your reply was the quote above. My reply was “but most insurance plans have a … deductible”.

                The conversation was really about money out of pocket. I think you inadvertently thought it was about copays. It happens :)

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      I went to see a gastrointestinal specialist two weeks ago and also had a five minute visit where he didn’t really listen to me about my issues and told me to call back in two weeks. I did, gave all my symptoms in detail to the nurse. A different nurse took two days to reply and the doctor still didn’t listen to my problem. Or I guess didn’t read it. And he’s the only gastrointestinal doctor in town. All the others within a 90 minute drive are either not taking new patients or won’t see me for 3 months, at which point, it will be too late. I haven’t eaten in 22 days. I’m basically fucked until I end up in a hospital.

      Please no medical advice. Thank you.

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        Nope, when I ditched my insurance from that company and had to go to my regular doctor, it was $65 up front and I didn’t see another bill. It was the most bullshit thing I’ve experienced.