Claudia is definitely hustling all over the country. She’s been holding events in lots of states at community centers and universities. Maybe she could have been flashier at some protests but PSL might not want to entangle their lead party candidate in anything with potential criminal consequences as they are still a smaller party than Greens and probably don’t have as substantial of a legal fund.

I do want to say that if people would rather vote for Green’s over PSL to try to reach the 5% threshold, I find that pretty reasonable. It would be great to have a real leftist 3rd party get the chance to actually callout dems and repubs directly. I’ve been more impressed with Hawkins’s writings than I expected, and so I will check out Green’s as well as PSL local chapters when I’m back in the states.

It’s sad to see S4A dying more and more on this hill. Just a few months ago they offered both Green’s and PSL as alternatives, but it seems like they doubled down and got very butthurt by commenters questioning their “anti-revisionism”. They keep posting a 2007 article from PSL’s Liberation School that was more critical on the CPC then their party line is today as proof that they “de-evolved”, but frankly I read through it and basically they just said that Dengism has sucked because it brought capitalism back to China but also that it would be disastrous for the CPC to lose power unless it were somehow replaced with another Communist revolution (which… ain’t gonna happen in the near future). So the conclusion was to remain critical but support the socialist tendencies that still exist.

The kicker is S4A literally used to work with the Green’s and then left because they viewed it as a dead-end, not-explicitly-socialist party. And now they are actually better to support than PSL because… PSL has a wrong line on China?

It’s especially stupid because an ideological disagreement in the US left about a foreign country’s challenges building socialism truly will not matter until far, far down the line, and that’s assuming we ever find a modicum of success.

Agreed, this bit is too good to give up.

Where’s the distinguishing line? Earnest question

Care to elaborate? She seemed okay in the Channel 5 interview. BTW I already voted

when I’m back in the states I’ll take a look at local Green’s actions as well as PSL I think. yes DSA has to end its tailism then maybe it has a chance to play a real role

I don’t think I’ve heard Jill make a remark on it. I’m not sure if this represents more of the Greens or just Ware having a bit of a moment. I listened to Howie Hawkins “case for an independent left party” the other day and was surprised with how outright socialist the text is. I’ve heard Greens are also a huge mixed bag depending on chapter.

Have you seen Socialism 4 All on YouTube? He’s a huge anti-Dengist and even made a community post the other day promoting the Green’s over PSL, saying in the comments that PSL are revisionists on China but should know better because of some 2007 article from their liberation school which is I guess harsher on China than they are now. I read some of the article and it seemed to be saying that capitalist restoration sucks, but that any replacement of the CCP would lead to a much worse situation for the Chinese people overall. And then goes into a historical and class analysis of why China ended up where it is. It’s annoying because he does great work making audiobooks for everything but he has BadEmpanada streamer syndrome in droves for sure.

It’s just parody at this point.

yikes, didn’t catch that on the first read

Probably? That’s a guarantee

Yeah, I was completely mortified by the actual design of the thing. PAD is good but there should be no bazinga “glory” aestheticized out of such a decision. It’s revolting.

Must have been it! Thanks!

Do you think The Weird and Eerie is still an enjoyable read for someone who is only aware of like 1/4 of the works he discusses?

Ugh, that first sentence makes me pretty much incapable of even watching.

This looks really interesting, thanks.

A really great article actually, was it only ever the article and not a book? However, I got to say that there still seems to be a lot of anticommunist priming in nearly every sentence. And calling women in communist state positions advocating for liberation “cultural imperialists” is a little over the top. I forgot what it’s like to be in the weird in-between zone where you recognize socialism as a successful system that has already achieved great success for worker libration but still have to do the anticommunist song and dance to be “taken seriously”, maybe even from your own perspective yourself.

I didn’t even know this was in State and Rev, is it near the end? Is the critique regarding ex owners and all that?

I’ve read TANS and thought it was really nice and digestible too. I’ve been in the process of working through How the World Works for a couple years now as well, it’s great for when I have the time to focus on something a little more academic. Too bad Cockshott is such a reactionary shithead.