Which is extra wild with Trump himself saying it’s a suitable term.

So… 2b2t will have breached containment. That’ll go well, they already created insane bots that regularly wrecked thousands of servers while in containment just testing them.

Always funny seeing people say that for open-source stuff.

Needed to make that call gng.

Liking Zohran and hating AOC is not the result of coherent analysis

I will say there is the odd possibility of them just hoping a social imperialist executive vs legislator can get some of the treats running again to stave off fervor, thus improving their lives for a blip of time even if it otherwise doesn’t progress things.

i.e there might be analysis but the analysis is opportunistic in nature. It’s why I’ve joked about it being American first “socialism”

Yeah, basically this. Most data suggests a large portion of Americans aren’t exactly big on trump. Criticizing him is good small talk— or agitation with specific issues—but isn’t a tactical question. If you convince a DSA type that no social-chauvinism isn’t the path forward then you have someone who touches grass and talks to people doing it to build worker power instead of just canvas for a social-imperialist.

Yeah but the person above is arguing directly against that, saying no great man could save this.

Some do have that reasoning, and they are people being disillusioned from their liberalism. Others are tired of what they see as the praising of blatant opportunism.

I.e some want a great person to rise up and create the party and are upset when betrayed, and others are tired of seeing, “the Mensheviks are the way!”

But this topic doesn’t just concern the “Great Man” when these debates pop up, as this often is the result of genuine organizating efforts. If a Mamdani administration doesn’t do much to advance a socialist cause, harms it, etc. that is thousands who spent months of effort backing an opportunist cause instead of something that may actually advance struggle, and desiring to prevent that in anyway is obvious. Not every critic is productive of course, but it is something worth struggling over as it is a fundamental question of tactics.

Oh, I agree but from what I’ve seen whining in the direction of DSA at least gets them to have some struggles sessions (or at the bare least argue if something may be right), Like how some of their chapters/caucuses are signed onto a letter calling for Zohran to dump Tisch. So if we’re arguing a “the complaining should have value,” argument, complaining about DSA types has more use. If the view is the complaining is pointless and just venting the DSA SIOs are can at least be whined about with mental spiraling and the call to adventure. Also, there is something about someone proclaiming to be of the same viewpoint as you then staunching acting against that which can be especially grating in comparison to them calling themselves something entirely different. It’s why you see dozens of people constantly polemicizing against national socialism, national Bolshevism, ACP-types, in a way they don’t MAGA. If a fascist goes “I’m a fascist” vs. “I’m a communist” you only are going to need to argue with one of those statements.

Very correct lol.

The assertion above is he will be useless once he is in, and Stalin/Lenin/Mao would be just as useless come January if you dropped them in his position and told them their goal was a socialist mayorality.

Counterpoints:

1. DSA types actually occasionally read and have chapter adjustments and realignments from these complaints
2. The types of complaints we levy about Trump types and the solutions to that get mods on us for “fedposting” (A shitposter can’t be a fed? I thought this was a left space! its tradition!)

The comic did a lot of elevating for The Greatest Estate Developer, iirc his personality is pretty different and more bogstandard isekai chump in the novel, but still within the Korean versions standard.

Ya know things are fucked when the best you got are U.S anti-imperialist solidarity.

But they aren’t. The boat strikes are unpopular.

Whenever I see people act otherwise I feel like it’s just rote “expecting to be right too early” without actually… Looking outside.

Xi elevates weak domestic demand to a core issue of economic stability and security, making clear that the pivot toward domestic demand is no longer optional.

@xiaohongshu@hexbear.net getting tired of subtweeting the CCP from a finsta and made some calls

@jack@hexbear.net

On a less joking note, I know in what was he wrote about the national question he touches upon the need for national liberation using both democratic and revolutionary movements in backwards nations, which would obviously touch upon much of LatAm, however I don’t think I recall reading anything that touches any more specifically upon LatAm.

With the political backslide countries like Bolivia have seen, I think something more Bolivarian in character may be neccesary. Obviously though, even electoral only victories are better than chud reign.

Imagine: global revolution with amerikkkan characteristics, brings a tear to my eye.

Wait… I think that’s just napalm.

You’re monkey-pawing it

I’m surprised there isn’t a more democratic centralist Dem Soc org

Missed the fun debacle like 2 months ago where NYCDSA tried this and enforcing a support Zohran no matter what line that was overwhelming rejected by its membership.

Maybe we should just turn the DSA into the US version of the International

In my head its essentially taking the role of the reactionary trade union in context of the evaporation unions with undermined US labor power and its complete non-existence in swathes of the country and the fact with the membership numbers it has and broad access and associations with different organizations and activists it can serve as an agitational space for MLs while also giving people experience working in democratic bodies and organizing. Now too much of this is in electoral work imo, but I digress. I’ve seen people call it or allude to it being a party and that take is kinda delusion if they’ve taken a minute looking at its current internal operations. If DSA is a party as is, the word has no meaning.

I do see either a split of the DSA happening at some point from either its left or right depending on how the national level power struggle goes, or a full folding into the dems in a particular lose scenario for the DSA’s left, however even that would server as either a split or fracturing as it would also likely hemorrhage most of those people, the difference being at that point they fracture into a bunch of micro-orgs instead of a coherent org/party.

News mega ensuring none of us truly feel at peace