Exactly. It’s not about ‘democracy’. It’s about the right building a fortress within power structure of the country that excludes the bipartisan/democrat lanyard class.

This has been my nagging suspicion about the sudden calling of the UK election too.

Rishi’s always been off for ridiculously paid board job, likely in finance around silicon valley, but the way it was called - the seemingly deliberately terrible optics, barely campaigning, completely fucking over much of the Tory party feels like more than just a fuck you to colleagues who didn’t respect him and the racists in the party.

For the actual deep establishment of the UK (military, intelligence, billionaire class) this has always been a planned handover of power, but I think the urgency came not just from Rishi’s spite but this class’ concern that the Tories were going to complicate it with a vote of no confidence and end up having an election right when overlapping crisis hit - economic spiralling, food and produce shortages, and likely the UK stepping up involvement in at least Ukraine and maybe Israel etc.

It’s been well known that Rishi never wanted to be a wartime PM despite his tough on Russia posturing. He’s been criticised for it by Tory insiders since becoming PM basically. Then you’ve had the recent increase in official visits, defence conference panels, and meetings with Azov, the Ukrainian military, and associated defense industry people not just in the commons, often to a Labour-heavy audience, but even directly with Starmer’s Labour party even instead of the current government. So I do wonder if the establishment basically called time on Rishi because they needed the safe, controlled pair of hands of Starmer high on a Labour victory in place before the escalation happens.

Interestingly, a Tory MP said something very similar on a podcast recently; about the UK planning a much more ‘visible’ role directly in the Ukraine war for the end of the summer/autumn that wouldn’t be able to be half-hidden from the public. But he’s also kind of a crank when it comes to a lot of right-wing conspiracy stuff like ‘Covid totalitarianism’ so who knows what that’s worth.

This is partly why I suspect that this might be a generational factionalism in the Democratic machinery.

The old(est) guard and the functionally apolitical consultant/finance lanyards who honestly do just as well or better when the dems aren’t in power. With the young(er) generation and B-tier of operatives now realising that the damage being done, to the party and the recent supreme court decision etc, might be too much to simply wait for their turn

In a way, it feels like it mirrors some of the divisions within the capital class itself. There’s the bullish types who basically seem to accept that growth and the climate are fucked, and are now trying to rip the copper wiring out of the walls of the global economy while they can since they likely won’t be around when it tips into collapse. And then there’s the equally self-interested ‘activist’ capital class looking to keep the game going with green tech and new models for economic extraction etc because they want their gilded age too but know the old models won’t last long enought for them to get theirs.

Time for some private jets to go missing and never be recovered MH370 style.

Watching my partner play through this in the early days of the first Covid lockdown here was a fucking surreal but kind of hauntingly perfect experience. Kojima is basically this era’s Nostradamus.

I am the deer that doesn’t know what’s happening but is fixated because sparkly.

I was just about to use this example. Not only that, but many politicians (never mind the public) asked at the time didn’t even know that the Governor General and said powers even existed at the time. He had, however, been on the CIA’s payroll for some time.

The British Royal Navy will claim that one of its vessels was hit and almost sunk by the Houthis. It will quickly be revealed that it was crashed into by another British Royal Navy vessel operating in the area. The Houthis will post a barrage of memes about it and the accident will cost the hundreds of millions and it’s ability to continue its support of the mission.

Azov/Right Sector accidentally release definitive proof that they fired on their own citizens during the Maidan after footage of it is included as B-roll for a pro-Ukraine propaganda video shared all over the internet by NAFO accounts.

TikTok gets sold to a US group who immediately destroy it with obvious and smothering propaganda and moderation that makes posting anything difficult. It hemorrhages users for a month or two. And then China relaunches Musical.ly which grows exponentially and absolutely dominates again.

The UK is dragged into the war by hawks and defence industry goons in a newly elected Labour government under Keir Starmer.

Trump then wins the election and begins a withdrawal of support, money, and troops by the US, leaving us in the lurch.

Russia hits some UK military targets abroad and maybe does some cyber attacks here, which will enrage the defense folks but the not the public, just to remind us were a yapping little dog without the US.

Suddenly there will be an embarrassing climb down and U-turn as we pivot to supporting a peace agreement rather than getting our shit kicked in without full US backing.

@Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml We also have an emoji for it from a stage version…

I’m convinced this is only getting any kind of coverage again because various governors and stayed are trying to implement mask bans, clearly for invasive facial recognition and tracking, and the media can’t really cover it (either in opposition or to try and make it sound like it’s about covid stiff, not surveillance) without the context of Covid.

Project Seafarer was a real project in the 80s too. And a smaller version of Project Sanguine that in the previous decades had been campaigned against and sabotaged until they were forced to abandon it.

That’s just any soup for me.

Why go to restaurants when you could just eat take out at home?

Why talk to friends about things when you could just watch the news?

Why have sex when you can jerk off in the mirror?

If everyone involved in your politics is an older, right-wing, white man with broadly identical politics - including your candidate - I wonder what that says about the status quo you’ve devoted your life to defending.

Good faith isn’t just about being polite and sounding civil. It’s about actually engaging with other ideas presented. I don’t believe you’ve done that, as evidenced by simply restating the exact same point again and again - vote Biden because he’s better than Trump - across a dozen replies to me and more to others, despite the fact that they’ve articulated why they either don’t agree or reject that extremely narrow framework altogether.

You seem to be caught in a trap that everything is about a message that would be accepted if only it was articulated correctly; whether that’s me ‘understanding you’ or politicians ‘hearing us’ despite having directly opposing material interests.

I understand your meaning. I just don’t agree and reject it for the many reasons I’ve stated.

The rest I’ve addressed elsewhere.

So continuing in this circular arguement would be pointless at this point since you clearly have nothing new to add. Hence, PigPoopBalls.

This is just an endless repetition of the same tired arguements you’ve posted multiple times in this reply alone, never mind the myriad replies to me and others. So I’ll try to strip this down to the simplest core points possible.

I don’t care who you vote for. Vote whatever and move on. If you’re concerned about the state of the world, pull the lever and then focus your attention on something more productive. Anything more productive.

We’ve gotten away from it with this distraction, but this original post is about the wholesale criminalisation and incarceration of unhoused people in order to use them for defacto slave labour.

You’re spending all this time and energy and intellectual effort on gaming out elaborate electoral fantasies like; if only we could get the politicians to hear us, in the right way, at the right time, then they’d change. They won’t. They don’t ‘hear you’ not because of timing or messaging, but because their material interests are entirely in supporting policies like this.

You’re spending all this effort building an elaborate and doomed philosophy and strategy out of magical thinking and then more trying to get others on board.

You’d be better off going and handing out toiletries to the homeless, doing mutual aid, literally anything else.

This whole repetitive arguement isn’t going anywhere and I don’t believe it’s worth going through every point again when we’re repeating ourselves.

You keep restating your position - vote for Biden because it’s better than Trump - as though I don’t understand it. I do. As I’ve said many times, I think your focus and insistence on this point and only this point is myopic to the point of being worthless.

I have no idea what you’re trying achieve here. You don’t seem interested in engaging with ideas beyond your very narrow view. Does your ego just need someone here to tell you that you’re right and they’ll pull the lever for Biden? Are you so conflicted about the shakiness of your rational for doing so that you require some sort of validation? If you’re trolling then you’re not very good at it since you appear more just confused and a little sad than anger inducing. Perhaps you’re looking for some kind of gotcha to post elsewhere for likes? I honestly have no idea.