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  • Well, that’s where moderation comes into play.

    As much as people hate the idea, you need strict moderation to keep a given platform civil and on topic. To do that you need either robust tools (which lemmy does not have yet), or moderators able and willing to put in the time to keep things on track.

    When a forum is run with a low tolerance for incivility, it will eventually become less of a target for jerks.

    I catch hell any time I say that because people seem to believe (in spite of a millennium+ of evidence otherwise) that the default state of discourse is friendly and orderly. It simply isn’t. People are assholes. When they have the veil of quasi-anonymity, there are large amounts that won’t even pretend not to be.

    I’ve seen it happen over and over again since the first html chat I was involved with in the nineties. Even before that, but when you were dealing with pre aol era internet, it was much less of a problem because of the barrier to entry.

    You want friendly, chill communities, you have to pick between firm moderation with large and open numbers of users, or light moderation and limited access/numbers. The middle ground is just too open to bad actors.

    On reddit, I saw strict moderation change a sub. I saw subs go from constant flame wars and nastiness into a fairly relaxed vibe in a matter of weeks just with active and mild moderation. With stronger moderation and clear community rules, you really can maintain a great community with only bare minimum randos stirring trouble.



  • I understand your frustration. It’s justified. The dentist should have explained why they aren’t willing to do the job, and why it’s not the best choice overall.

    Now, I’m not your doctor/dentist, so take this with that in mind.

    But, unless you have a specific medical condition that is going to result in tooth loss no matter what you do, implants are a poor choice. Even with one of those conditions, you want to wait as long as possible because implants have limits and they don’t always preserve the jaw properly.

    Ever known anyone with dentures? They tend to lose their fit fairly often. Part of the reason for that ia that the bones of the jaw are maintained by the act of chewing. The motion of natural teeth in their sockets keeps the jaw strong and healthy in a way that implants can’t match. Mind you, implants do stimulate the jaw some, it just isn’t the same, and it isn’t as good. So delaying that as long as possible is the standard practice. You’d be in the situation where any dentist or oral surgeon willing to do the job (again, assuming no underlying condition) isn’t practicing good ethics for their field, so you wouldn’t be able to trust their work very much.

    Restoration > extraction, every time.

    There are limits, obviously. Sometimes there’s no way to restore a given tooth, and it needs pulling. But you’d be better off overall doing it when there’s no other choice, tooth by tooth.

    And it isn’t like implants are truly a once and done thing. They require maintenance and work as well. They can break, the area around them can get infected. Worst case, the bone degrades enough around the implants that you lose the implant as well as pieces of the jaw. That is brutal as fuck, btw.

    I get it though. One of my friends had her teeth yanked maybe fifteen years ago. She had some family genetic thing where their teeth just straight up suck. They’ll literally just fall out because the root dissolves sometimes. Finding a doc to do it so she could do dentures took some calling around. And that’s with one of the medical issues where it’s an inevitable outcome. The only difference would be how long she’d have to deal with pain and issues before them being gone anyway.

    So, again, your rant is totally understandable. I’m not saying otherwise. Your dentist should have explained all of that to you, with pictures and diagrams. And they should have explained that they’re ethically constrained to not jump into that severe of an action.