That’s pretty darn weak.

I’m still not seeing a specific accusation.

Well, you answered your own question 3 times. Consider the nature of that kind of conversation.

In a nutshell, thinking coarsens as it passes hand to hand. First-hand is finest. Fourth-hand is a crude and nigh-solipsistic.

So that’s one argument for independent thought.

If you wish to accuse me of any of that then you will need to be specific.

Otherwise, well, who’s the fascist now?

That’s a semantic argument about the salute. It makes no reference to nazis. You have nothing.

But nobody apologized for nazis.

I seriously doubt that. It’s rabble rousing.

You are like one of those little bugs that make noise at night. But instead of a melodious cheeping you just go “nazi nazi”.

It’s also the Roman salute, which predates nazis and fascists.

And you gotta admit, it’s a powerful gesture.

Also, he runs a company that makes spaceships. Which is pretty awsome.

Think about that while you work your shitty 9-to-5

I think that isolating oneself in a cave might be best.

Imagine an illusion, the matrix, built not of scifi machinery but of habit, maintained by the presence of others.

Get alone and the habits dissolve. And then the invisible becomes visible.

When both sides are full of professional liars, that won’t work.

We might have to settle for not knowing.

I might add, “become comfortable with uncertainty”. Because nothing drowns you in a swamp of bullshit like an excessive need for certainty.

Repeating “they are bad and dumb” ad nauseum is no way to inspire sane conversation. It’s just echo chamber circle jerk.

That’s fair. But I actually admire the guy. And you people tend to witch-hunt like a bunch of Monty Python extras on crack. So you see where I’m coming from.

That’s the best way

our thoughts are given form by language and vocabulary

And our experiences, and our intelligence, too. Right?

Which makes the challenge one of navigating that mess.

No. Can you link me?

EDIT

ok, watched the video. Ya, that’s a pretty fascist salute there.

There is the theory that we feel emotions first and then we think only to justify the emotion.

This would imply that it isn’t the thinking that needs to be managed but the emotions.

This is mob insanity at work. There is no nazi.

He’s just waving at the audience for Christ’s sake.