you’re just doubling down. try some selfcrit

Theunknownmuncher said that I trivialize the experience of human rape victims.

i think it’s reasonable to say that when you compare a veterinary procedure to rape.

You made a personal attack when you put words in my mouth

no, they didn’t.

you’re sick and twisted

Yes dumbass.

Truly not shaking the dumbass reputation.

for the record, you don’t care about women getting raped. You literally don’t give a fuck

your sick, egotistical, selfish world view blocks you from giving a shit. I suspect this world view also extends to other beliefs of yours.

Go crawl back into the hole where you feel morally righteous

the other user hasn’t said anything that rises to the level of these statements from you.

try to be civil.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

the last I checked, the oil was about half the value of a bean, and growing

Matrix, to my knowledge, is only chats, servers (or more properly rooms in Matrix, since they have real servers), and DMs.

I was responding to this

there are “spaces” now which is a collection of rooms, which is a pretty good analogue for discord “servers”

ultimately, the vast majority of the weight of the crop does go to animals, but between what people use for industry, what people eat, and the amount that is put into an oil press, people use 93% of the crop and the industrial waste from human use is what is fed to animals.

it was true when I wrote it, and there are literally hundreds of new comments since then. got a link?

the vast majority of what is consumed by animals would be waste from oil production. so humans do consume those beans, but give the leftovers to livestock. humans use 93 % of the soy, and any industrial waste is what is given to livestock

only 69% of the crop becomes soy cake. an additional 7% is given directly to livestock.

a soybean is only 20% oil. in order for 69% of the global crop to become suy cake, about 85% of the global crop must be pressed for oil. 20% of 85% is 17%. that’s how much of the global soy crop ends up as oil according to that chart (between food oil and industrial applications).

your own last link has a chart that shows soy use. do you see how (almost) every bit of soy fed to livestock is soycake/soy meal? that is the byproduct of pressing soybeans for oil. if we didn’t give it to livestock, it would be industrial waste.

it seems like you understand exactly what i’m saying, but you need to somehow paint yourself as right and me as wrong. fine.

have a nice day.

I’m not being cynical. what I said is true

have a nice day.

you didnt specify. you made a very broad claim which is not supported by the narrow study.

i can vote for a candidate without supporting every position they’ve had. i can buy a product without supporting all the labor practices of the company. to say i can’t is myopic.

they only compared retail costs. they didn’t account for people who get food for free or near free through poverty subsistence programs or hunting or fishing or farming their own. it basically didn’t cover poor people at all.