Can you really say that though with enough to back it up? Some are born there and unhappy with how things are. Some stay to help Palestinians. A big chunk are colonial fucks. But there isn’t anything that can justify dehoming more people. Palestinian should be compensated for their lost land fairy, in every way, but that does not mean it’s okay to displace people yet again. I really don’t see why Palestine should also become an ethnostate where swarms of people are forced out in terror yet again… rather than instead being a homogenous society that can restore Palestinians’ rights in legal and fair ways that also ensure human rights for everyone else no matter who they are.

And I’m not talking about far right lunatics in Israel, but rather Israeli society at large.

If it’s wrong when the IDF does it (to tell people to evacuate and clear their responsibility for any civilian casualties), then why isn’t it wrong if Hezbollah does it? They can both be wrong.

Yeah man like I explained, the way you phrase things or the way you dramatize makes you look like a wolf clearly dressed as a sheep. Sort of like a bad actor. Maybe only to me, but hey I only represent myself. Other readers can freely engage you.

Ps. Yes I have considered that and found it not to be true after careful consideration.

I am both Palestinian and European. Or is that another thing you are oblivious about? That one can be both?

Honestly it sounds to me like Hezbollah is just mirroring IDF tactics (maybe to make a political point). It’s absolutely no different from Lebanese people being told to evacuate by Israel. Except for that one part where Israel gives you less than 10 minutes to grab your cat and daughter.

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No one said anything about guilt. Just innocence.

I don’t think you are misunderstanding anything.

And I don’t know why people do weird stuff like pretend not to know something to “bait Americans” into a discussion. Maybe they get off from it.

And I like to have conversations with people who don’t bait others into a debate by playing innocent.

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Anyway no harm done, and I’m just a “fellow European” so I’m not the target here.

Yeah, I find it hard to believe. Declaring innocence at each sentence is a red flag. I don’t personally care, but I can’t get myself to believe you either.

Funny though how I see it pulled out so often in response.

It’s the way you dramatize it and declare innocence at every step that makes this a red flag. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t personally care, I just can’t get myself to believe you. The whole Europe thing looks like you are baiting Americans into the discussion.

I’m based in Europe and I am yet to meet anyone ever who still needs to speculate about Trump’s stance on stuff.

Anyway I hope you enjoy the discussion.

Yeah a bit. It looks a bit like an act. Being based in Europe doesn’t exactly mean much in terms of understanding world politics.

I wonder if much of Israel underwent a moral drain (kinda like a brain drain but a lot of those “not evil” people made the good decision to stop being part of an apartheid state), and young people are immediately indoctrinated either by their parents/schools at an early age or by the state (via military service) at 18. I am beginning to see how skewed and ugly the current ideological composition of Israel is.

Some articles on Haaretz just sound like Israelis just now beginning to understand the possibility that Palestinians are human beings.

Being smarmy. I can’t stand people who are ready to manipulate anything out of people as they do it with their smarmy smirks.

Green Day?

Or is that something we keep telling people who are voting third party?

How are you asking out of curiosity when you already seem to know what Trumps’s stance is on?

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Actually yes, and that may one day even break the deadlock American politicians put onto their failed two party system.