ilyenkov [she/her, they/them]

Non-binary trans girl. Anti-Gonzaloite Marxist-Leninist-Maoist.

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  • This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, tbh.

    I am all for recognizing that languages change all the time, etc. But also, isn’t the point of laying out categorical schemes like this to provide clarity? And I think clarity calls for us to, when possible, consider etymology, history of usage, etc. because that allows people to more readily understand terminology when they just encounter it in use, rather than getting it from some kinda chart like this.

    So, I think it’s weird to call bi an umbrella term if the term and the terms supposedly falling under the umbrella are exclusionary. Example: “communist” is an umbrella term. You can call both Marxists and Ancoms communists, because they both fall under the umbrella. I agree that you shouldn’t call a pan person bi, but that means pan doesn’t fall under any kind of bi umbrella.

    Also, pan and omni are synonymous; pan being Greek and omni Latin. I’ve never heard of this distinction of pan having no gender preference and omni having one - feels made up by this person. BTW, I identify as pan, and have a preference (though I personally wouldn’t say it’s a gender preference. I know several agender people and I am attracted to some, and not to others, though none of them have a gender, so I don’t think gender is really what my preferences are about. And I could go on about this, but that’s a whole nother post).











  • after all, Aristotle and Plato were alive at the same time, so pre-Aristotelian also doesn’t work in that regard

    That’s fair. I don’t really think “pre-Aristotelian” is a particularly good categorization of philosophers though, just a funny rejection of the term “pre-Socratics”.

    Really the big gap between Plato and the pre-Socratics is that we have many intact texts by Plato, while with the pre-Socratics we have only a handful of quotations preserved in later texts and some dubious paraphrase and summaries, so it’s hard to pin down exactly what was going on. But, as far as I can tell, it was really Parmenides and his followers (like Zeno) who established the need for a more rigorous approach. For example: great developments in logic were needed to defeat their arguments that motion and plurality were impossible and only an illusion.

    Platonists might not have caused the cooption of Christianity, but most of the really objectionable elements of Christianity are Platonic. Like I’m 100% not a Christian of any kind, but Jesus seemed like kind of a cool dude who wanted to create the kingdom of heaven on earth: a just society were people hold all things in common and shit. All the metaphysical bullshit about souls and the trinity and hating your body and shit is from Plato, Pythagoras, Orphism, and shit like that.