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prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•Is democracy the best form of organization for making important decisions that affect many people?English
1·25 days agoI have no idea how alignment works. I can well imagine that it might make sense to train artificial intelligence using values that have been determined through democratic consultation with large population groups. But let’s assume that the AI is already perfectly aligned. Could it be that it knows much better than humans themselves what is good for humans? If you ask a small child what it wants, it might say: a mountain of chocolate. But the parents would know very well that this mountain of chocolate is not good for the child. Another question, of course, is under what circumstances one could trust such an AI.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•Is democracy the best form of organization for making important decisions that affect many people?English
11·26 days agoThis question is also relevant to how we imagine an ideal future with artificial general intelligence/artificial super intelligence. If machines are eventually able to make much more thoughtful decisions than humans, would it still make sense to involve humans democratically in the decision-making process (assuming that AI would act in the interests of humanity)?
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•If a project is managed by democratic decisions made by the public, how can the privacy of those involved be protected?English
1·26 days agoPerhaps a hybrid solution would be appropriate where there are several chat groups, some of which are public and others only used by closed groups within the community. I would favor such a decentralized approach where there is no central chat group for all participants, but rather people organize themselves into smaller groups.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•If a project is managed by democratic decisions made by the public, how can the privacy of those involved be protected?English
1·26 days agoA related question is whether chat groups that deal with company matters should be public and readable by everyone. On the one hand, transparency is good because this company is supposed to belong to everyone in the world, and therefore everyone should have the opportunity to follow the company’s affairs. On the other hand, those who participate in a public chat group expose themselves. Sometimes it is better for people to have a protected environment in which they can express themselves freely without strangers being able to access what they have written.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•If a project is managed by democratic decisions made by the public, how can the privacy of those involved be protected?English
1·26 days agoIt would probably be necessary to make certain information within the company accessible only to a small group of people who undertake to treat this knowledge confidentially. Perhaps it would make sense to have these people elected by the community. However, it must of course be ensured that these people are trustworthy.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•What mechanism can be used to verify that a participant in an online election is a real person who has only cast their vote once?English
1·2 months agoOkay, I understand. You mean that with electronic elections, you can’t have both anonymity and trust. I agree. Either you hold elections that are anonymous but could theoretically be manipulated, or you publish who voted for what, making the result verifiable. The decision between anonymity and trust is not an easy one. Here, we can discuss whether elections should be secret: https://lemmy.ml/post/38737498
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•What mechanism can be used to verify that a participant in an online election is a real person who has only cast their vote once?English
1·2 months agoOne possibility would be to organize events in different locations around the world where digital identification codes are handed out to all participants, enabling them to vote online during the next time slot (e.g. 6 months). If the codes are handed out at the same time all over the world, it is not possible for one person to collect more than one code for a time slot.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•What software can be used for online voting?English
1·2 months agoDecidim is a digital open-source platform for citizen participation that can also be used for online voting: https://decidim.org/
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•What mechanism can be used to verify that a participant in an online election is a real person who has only cast their vote once?English
1·2 months agoThat’s right. It is probably necessary to create a database containing identification details for all participants. If such a database exists, it should either contain only information that cannot be used for identity theft, or it should be managed by a trustworthy authority that ensures this data is not misused.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•Should votes for a “company owned by humanity” be secret?English
1·2 months agoThat’s true. When holding public elections, one should simultaneously try to create an environment in which voters with unpopular opinions are not suppressed.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•Should votes for a “company owned by humanity” be secret?English
1·2 months agoThe problem with secret ballots is that they are much easier to manipulate. If it is public who voted for what, it is not so easy to fabricate votes without it being noticed. Especially with online elections, which are easy to manipulate, I think that elections can be protected against fraud by making the voting process transparent.
prichter@lemmy.mlOPMto
Company Owned By Humanity@lemmy.ml•What software can be used for online voting?English
3·2 months agoThat’s a very good question and a difficult one to answer. I agree with you that this is probably one of the biggest problems with conducting online elections. I’ve created a separate post to brainstorm solutions to this problem: https://lemmy.ml/post/38752026
I also have tried mobian on a PinePhone some years ago. The short batery live was indeed a big issue.
I like Debian because it is maintained by a community of volunteers rather than a company. In addition it is a well known distro with an active community that serves as the base for many other distros.

Yes, I agree with you. I would also like to see the process of AI alignment be a democratic process that is regularly adjusted to reflect people’s values.