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Hundreds of members of the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah have reportedly been injured after handheld pagers they use to communicate exploded.
Lebanon’s state news agency said there were blasts in the southern suburbs of Beirut and several other areas. Hezbollah’s al-Manar TV also said many pagers had exploded, without identifying those hurt.
Videos and photos on social media appeared to show wounded men sitting or lying on floors and others being rushed to hospitals. Unconfirmed CCTV footage showed blasts in shops.
A Hezbollah official told Reuters news agency it constituted the “biggest security breach yet” since hostilities with Israel escalated 11 months ago in parallel with the Gaza war.
There was no immediate comment from the Israeli military.
However, the events come hours after Israel’s security cabinet made the safe return of 60,000 residents displaced in the north by Hezbollah attacks an official war goal.
“The security cabinet has updated the objectives of the war to include the following: Returning the residents of the north securely to their homes,” the prime minister’s office said. "Israel will continue to act to implement this objective.”
On Monday, Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant said the only way to return Israel’s northern residents was through “military action”, during a meeting with US envoy Amos Hochstein.
“The possibility for an agreement is running out as Hezbollah continues to ‘tie itself’ to Hamas, and refuses to end the conflict,” a statement from his office said.
Israel has repeatedly warned it could launch a military operation to drive Hezbollah away from the border.
There have been almost daily exchanges of fire across the frontier since the day after the start of the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza on 7 October.
Hezbollah has said it is acting in support of the Palestinian group. Both are backed by Iran and proscribed as terrorist organisations by Israel, the UK and other countries.
Since October, at least 589 people have been killed - the vast majority of them Hezbollah fighters - according to Lebanon’s health ministry.
On the Israeli side, 25 civilians and 21 members of security forces have been killed, the Israeli government says.
updated article, 6 hours after, since the original was right as it happened:
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Nine people, including a child, have been killed after handheld pagers used by members of the armed group Hezbollah to communicate exploded across Lebanon, the country’s health minister says.
Iran’s ambassador to Lebanon was among 2,800 other people who were wounded by the simultaneous blasts in Beirut and several other regions.
Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran, said the pagers belonged “to employees of various Hezbollah units and institutions” and that at least two members were among the dead.
The group blamed Israel for what it called “this criminal aggression” and vowed that it would get “just retribution”. The Israeli military declined to comment.
Israel has been exchanging fire with Hezbollah since last October in parallel with the Gaza war, raising fears of a wider regional conflict.
The UN’s spokesman said the developments were “extremely concerning, especially given that this is taking place within a context that is extremely volatile”.
Hezbollah relies heavily on pagers for communications. The group has warned its members to stop using mobile phones because they could be hacked or tracked by Israeli security forces.
According to Hezbollah, an unspecified number of pagers exploded in multiple areas of Lebanon at around 15:30 local time (12:30 GMT).
One CCTV video showed an explosion in a man’s bag or pocket at a supermarket. He is then seen falling backwards to the ground and crying out in pain as other shoppers run for cover.
“In all my life I’ve never seen someone walking on the street… and then explode,” Musa, a resident of a southern Beirut suburb, told AFP news agency.
“My wife and I were going to the doctor. I found people lying on the ground in front of me,” he said. “People didn’t know what was happening.”
Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad told a news conference that casualties were brought to hospitals across the country, including those in southern Beirut suburb of Dahiyeh, the southern port city of Tyre, and in the Bekaa Valley.
He said most had wounds to the face, hands and stomach, and that about 200 were in a critical condition that required surgery or admission to intensive care.
Iranian state TV reported that Iran’s ambassador in Beirut, Mojtaba Amani, suffered “superficial” injuries in one of the explosions.
A source close to Hezbollah told AFP that two of those killed by the pager explosions were the sons of two Hezbollah MPs, Ali Ammar and Hassan Fadlallah. They also identified the dead child as the 10-year-old daughter of a Hezbollah member in the Bekaa Valley.
Fourteen people were also wounded by exploding pagers in neighbouring Syria, where Hezbollah is fighting alongside government forces in the country’s civil war, according to the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
“We hold the Israeli enemy fully responsible for this criminal aggression,” Hezbollah said in a statement on Tuesday evening.
“This treacherous and criminal enemy will certainly get his just retribution on this sinful aggression from where it counts and from where it does not count,” it added.
Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati also blamed Israel for the explosions, saying that they represented a “serious violation of Lebanese sovereignty and a crime by all standards”.
Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said he told his Lebanese counterpart that he “strongly condemned Israeli terrorism”.
The US has denied any involvement in the incident and urged Iran not to heighten tensions.
Hezbollah did not say what it believed had caused the pagers to explode.
The Wall Street Journal cited a source as saying the affected devices were from a new shipment that Hezbollah had received in recent days. A Hezbollah official also told the newspaper some people had felt the pagers heat up before the blasts.
Overheated lithium-ion batteries can catch fire, but experts said hacking into the pagers and making them overheat would not usually cause such explosions.
A former British Army munitions expert, who asked not to be named, told the BBC the pagers would have likely been packed with between 10g and 20g of military-grade high explosive, hidden inside a fake electronic component.
Once armed by a signal, called an alphanumeric text message, the next person to use the device would have triggered the explosive, the expert said.
Lina Khatib, a Middle East analyst at the UK-based Chatham House think tank, told the BBC: "Israel has been engaging in cyber operations against Hezbollah for several months, but this security breach is the largest in scale.”
Nicholas Blanford, a Beirut-based senior fellow of the American think tank the Atlantic Council, said: “Israel in one fell swoop has rendered combat ineffective hundreds if not thousands of Hezbollah fighters, in some cases permanently.”
“More senior field officers may not have been affected because they simply do not carry electronic communications devices, relying on messengers. But this is a big blow.”
He warned that Hezbollah’s leaders would now “face extreme pressure from the ranks and supporters to retaliate heavily”, describing it as “the most dangerous moment” in the Hezbollah-Israel conflict since October.
A statement put out by the Israeli military on Tuesday evening did not comment on the pager explosions, but said the chief of staff Lt Gen Herzi Halevi had held a situational assessment with commanders “focusing on readiness in both offence and defence in all arenas”.
It also said there was no change in defensive guidelines to the Israeli public but asked them to remain alert and vigilant.
On Tuesday morning, Israel’s security cabinet made the safe return of 60,000 residents displaced in the north by Hezbollah attacks an official goal of the Gaza war.
Israel Defence Minister Yoav Gallant said during a meeting with US envoy Amos Hochstein on Monday that the only way to return northern residents was through “military action”.
“The possibility for an agreement is running out as Hezbollah continues to ‘tie itself’ to Hamas, and refuses to end the conflict,” a statement from his office said.
There have been almost daily exchanges of fire across the Israel-Lebanon border since the day after the start of the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza on 7 October.
Hezbollah has said it is acting in support of the Palestinian group. Both are backed by Iran and proscribed as terrorist organisations by Israel, the UK and other countries.
Since October, at least 589 people have been killed in Lebanon, the vast majority of them Hezbollah fighters, according to the Lebanese health ministry.
On the Israeli side, 25 civilians and 21 members of security forces have been killed, the Israeli government says.
The fucking animals in cheering this on are making me fucking furious. Even if you accept he base idea that Hezbollah is a terrorist org, and that Israel is justified in attacking them (Which I don’t), it’s fucking absurd to think that all of these explosions only harmed “terrorists”. So many people were harmed here, and likely many more will die. Thousands were harmed by this, people just guilty of holding on to a communication device. This is such a disgusting action.
Reports of at least one 10-year-old child killed.
Supposedly these pagers were handed out not just to fighters, but to first responders as well.
When that child is brought up, the demons start talking about how the ratio “isn’t that bad actually, surgical really”, both downplaying the death of a child and immediately assuming none of the thousands of other victims aren’t children as well.
So far Hezbollah and Iran have been VERY careful about escalation.
I worry those days are over.
IDK what the response to this will be, Iran still hasn’t responded to the various provocations it has endured either. Something tells me that if Iran decides to launch a bunch of missiles again, they’re going to be less inclined to give the Americans a heads up or launch their old shit again.
It’s one of the grossest threads I’ve ever seen, just hootin and hollerin about a brutal atrocity.
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This is what they usually call a terrorist attack
The fucking Times passive construction headline is “Wireless Devices Explode Across Lebanon After Israel Warns Hezbollah”.
Current stats: 8 people killed and at least ~2,800 injured.
Three officials briefed on the attack said that it had targeted hundreds of pagers belonging to Hezbollah operatives who have used such devices for years to make it harder for their messages to be intercepted.
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Lebanon’s health minister, Dr. Firass Abiad, said in a press conference that eight people were killed by exploding paging devices and at least 2,780 were wounded, including about 200 in serious condition.
i honestly do not believe that a exploding
9v battery(so i referred it as a 9v battery, but there are a bunch of different batteries out there and they all have different attributes?) could kill someone, that would basically be like a e cigarette battery explodingOne theory I’ve read is that Mossad somehow infiltrated the company supplying pagers to Hezzbollah and distributed their own weaponized replacements.
This seems like the most likely one to me. If 9v batteries could be weaponised this easily we would have seen examples of it elsewhere for years now.
They’re like the easiest batteries to play around with because of how the contacts are constructed. Kids would have been blowing hands off in garages and basements for decades if the batteries themselves were capable of that kind of explosion.
Pretty sure they were lithium ion batteries, which are prone to exploding / fires.
Even those tend to end up more like giant volcanoes of fire, than actual percussive explosions as seen in some of the videos. Making those deliberately catch fire is also harder than you’d think. These pagers went off pretty much all simultaneously. I think the overall consensus is that they were very likely rigged with actual explosives.
Been reported that 20 grams of high explosive was hidden in the battery of each of these.
Hopefully a few failed to explode and we will get more information.
According to preliminary information, Tuesday’s breach may have been due to the device’s battery overheating and exploding. There is also inaccurate speculation about the arrival of a new batch of suspicious pagers.
they lbcgroup says that was false but who knows
I mean Sony’s remote firmware for its earbuds short circuited the battery for thousands if not millions of users. Supposedly newer batches used a battery that was like 0.1 volts higher, but the updated code didn’t detect whether the user had older batches. I can see someone with an infinite budget doing this and magnifying it with an explosive.
i am personally erring that these pager were adulterated with explosives and the catalyst was the battery exploding
that would basically be like a e cigarette battery exploding
Not true, it would be much, much more impossible than that. Lithium batteries are both much more unstable and much more energy dense than usual 9V batteries, it’s quite literally impossible to kill someone with a 9V battery explosion unless it’s being held inside the mouth or something. There’s definitely some explosive in the pager
Edit: this comment has assumed 9V pagers
hmm, okay thanks for clarifying - i don’t really understand battery differences
Is a lithium capable? I genuinely don’t know.
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hmm fair point i guess we are basically just giant water balloons, looking it up people do die from battery explosions from handheld devices in previous instances
That’s pretty wild. Total guess but seems like a supply chain attack to put in small amounts of explosive. Hopefully at least one failed to detonate so it can be dissected to see how it worked.
The zionist entity has used this tactic in the past to kill a bombmaker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Ayyash#Assassination
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This is going to be the subject of a hundred different youtube hacker videos theorising how this was done
And they’re all gonna have 2 throwaway lines doing the most shit brained political analysis of hezbollah
My personal theory is there was no hacking. They identified a plant that produced the pagers and got explosives in there. How the fuck do you make a pager explode with such force assuming all normal factory parts? They have a history of putting explosives in cell phones and this seems a natural corollary.
It would be fucked up but also interesting to learn if somebody has knowledge on how a pager can just do that, but even the Samsung shit didn’t have this lethal a result
Yeah I saw the video too. 100% explosives
Yeah most likely. I wonder if anyone went through any airport scanners or security with these pagers. If they ever did which seems likely then these bombs may have consistently passed through airport scanners. These bombs were also very clearly significant enough to blow the doors off a plane cockpit to get to the pilots.
Well if the explosions happened all at the same time, there had to be some remote detonation mechanism. Either centrally, automatically, or with local agents physically near the attack sites. The hardware and/or software had to have been compromised in addition to planting the bomb.
horrific terrorist attack
hospital footage coming out indicating adult pocket level is also child face level who knew
The most bugs bunny shit since the paraglider attack.
idk, running up to a tank, placing a bomb on it, and running away is pretty Loony Toons
It needs a prop of some kind to be Loony Toons. The JFK assassination is not at all Loony Toons because Oswald used a normal gun, the Shinzo Abe assassination is Loony Toons because it was a doohickey. Paragliders are a gizmo, beeper bombs are a gadget, popping out of a tunnel before throwing a grenade would be tactical use of a whatchamacallit.
I would subscribe to your blog.
Pagers
What is this, The Wire?
Earlier this year Nasrallah spoke about moving away from cell phones for comms because the Zionists could fuck with them. Turns out they can fuck with pagers too
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If they’ve got lithium batteries in them, I suppose remotely triggering a thermal runaway isn’t entirely out of the question.
Pagers can receive messages without producing radio signals themselves, so are impossible to locate.
Well in theory anyway, pagers that can also send do exist.
wait what? how would the tower know if you got your messages or whatnot?
Tower just broadcasts all the messages, and every beeper receives them all, then filters out the ones that are for a different number. The tower does not know if you got the message.
wow, i had no idea! i like that. i’m surprised tho that they don’t force 2 way communication if for no other reason than to track pagers too
I wonder if this has any connection to all those exploding samsung phones a few years ago, some sorta test run yknow
I heard thousands of separate Hezbollah members were trying to charge their Samsung Galaxy Note 7s :nainan-chad:
I’m half Lebanese and half israeli, that’s why I get my hummus in Tel Aviv or some shit
Damn, that’s a shame.
this is so fucked up.