• bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    Well it looks like this one’s as good as any:

    I’m voting party for socialism and liberation and you can too!

    They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to arms shipments to Israel.

    Psl is active outside of presidential elections, active outside of elections in general and is expanding!

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      3 hours ago

      In our electoral system, a vote for a third-party is a waste, and any resources dumped into them is a bigger waste.

      A socialist is going to prefer Harris over Trump, but by voting a third party instead of Democrat they’re effectively supporting Trump. When the election comes down to the wire, they’ll be the ones responsible for a second Trump term.

      This has already happened. People voting for the Green party over Al Gore are the reason we got 8 years of Bush.

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        I don’t mind the odd asshole who refuses to play ball, so far up their own ass they think they’re so special and that the spoiler effect doesn’t apply to their vote.

        If that is, they’re silent about it.

        The second they start advocating for others to join them in their stupidity, they go from a harmless idiot to an active threat to democracy, exactly as bad as the MAGAt they likely are.

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        Maybe you can’t speak for what socialists prefer. It’s really odd to say it’s third party voters’ fault your preferred candidate didn’t win rather than your candidates fault they did not attract enough voters.

        If everyone left of the Overton window promise to vote for the Democrats regardless of what policies the Democrats propose, what prevents the Democrats from moving to the right?

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        2 hours ago

        My vote isn’t a waste. It is counted like any other.

        My vote for psl isn’t support for trump. It doesn’t count towards trumps total. Would you say the people unwilling to vote democrat are more responsible for the events of a trump term than the people who didn’t vote at all? Than the democrat party for running a bad campaign? Than the administrative regime that puts its plans into action?

        You are mistaken about bush v gore. The Supreme Court installed bush and the Florida recount wouldn’t have changed the result because it wasn’t the whole state recount needed to actually flip the electoral college. Gore won Florida but the recount wasn’t in enough precincts to show that. I have no love for the greens, but they’re not why we got bush.

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      This presidential election is not the time to be pushing the PSL party. Even if they were much more popular than they are now, they aren’t on enough states ballots to get to 270 even if they won every state they’re in.

      Focus on getting PSL candidates into house and Senate seats and making them more mainstream, not taking votes away from Democrats when the alternative is still Trump.

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        2 hours ago

        If winning the presidential election was all that mattered you’d have a good point.

        My vote for psl doesn’t take a vote away from democrats because I would not vote for the democrats.