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    20 days ago

    I find that people who use the word woke as an insult don’t really understand what it means.

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        19 days ago

        regularly scheduled reminder that the matrix was written by at least one trans person (can’t be fucked to research more than that) who outright said it’s a “trans metaphor”, according to the BBC.

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          18 days ago

          Both the sisters who wrote it are. However they also claimed it was a trans-metaphor quite a long time afterwards.

          A lot of it doesn’t make sense as a trans-metaphor, so I’m not entirely convinced of this claim. Its a great film, with some horrible sequels.

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            18 days ago

            One of the main characters, Switch, was meant to change genders in and out of the matrix. It’s not all trans metaphors, but there is much going on there that is relevant,

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              18 days ago

              The vast majority of the films supposed metaphors are mostly around secret knowledge, and discovering that what they were being told was a lie to control.

              It could be read as an egg moment, but from the outset many groups were claiming that it represented them and I could easily see why they would say that.

              The only reason I said what I did was because so much of it is vague and anything could be read into it.

              It’s not all trans metaphors

              What was actually made (as the first film) has very few trans-metaphors.

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                Yes, in think the directors have even said it wasnt consciously a trans based decision at the time. They just thought it would be cool and make a good story.

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      19 days ago

      woke is when orientals cook in a badly dented pan, isnt it? they couldnt even bother to find one with a flat bottom!

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      20 days ago

      Yes, you think this was some piece of ancient history and it really wasn’t. I don’t think I ever saw it as my folks wouldn’t allow it and my Dad’s parents would have got a flea in their ear if it was on when we were round but they enjoyed The Good Old Days and The Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club, which also invoked the old variety show or working men’s club spirit.

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    19 days ago

    When people wax poetic about awful shit that was “harmless” what they are really upset about is that “it was harmful to a group of people it used to be ok to harm and I wish I could harm them again”

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      I was in a bar i used to hang out in almost 20 years ago. It was kinda weird to see the same people still sitting there. There were two guys on my table that i knew from back then, but even then, not too well. They talked about how these days, they can’t say anything anymore, not like in the good old days. They said it over and over, just phrased it differently every time. So i asked: sorry, but what can’t you say anymore.

      One of them shrugged and said: you know, things that were okay in the good old days?

      Like what?

      Things.

      You want to be racist and homophobic, which by the way you still can, but you don’t want to deal with the repercussions.

      It used to be okay

      FOR YOU!!

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      19 days ago

      The ones who claim their rights and freedoms are being taken away are the ones who are being told “being racist isn’t tolerated anymore”

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      19 days ago

      Oh no, it’s nothing as introspective as that, it’s a much more lazy mindless stance than that, it’s just knee-jerk “They took [some thing] away from me!”

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    19 days ago

    “If it was so popular why did they cancel it” is my usual snipe.

    Ffs that cancellation date is nearly 50 years ago, the fuck are you shocked it doesn’t meet modern standards you decrept old bastard

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    19 days ago

    I vaguely remember the black and white minstrels being a thing, but by the time I understood what was really going on it had stopped. I don’t remember enjoying it.