I am not a teen.

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    Writing a story and having to make my characters not want to have sex because of the existence of an unrelated industry outside the context of their universe.

    Striking out any gambling references in my stories because of the rise of online gambling.

    Then I realize I’ve stupidly written scenes where my characters eat, having forgotten like a stupid hack how many restaurants there are in the real world.

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      Dude, there’s a difference between romance and full-on extended sex scenes. Fade to black and get on with the plot.

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        The sex scenes that most mainstream dramas have traditionally had are brief and not explicit.

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          And also not necessary. You don’t need to see two people fucking to know they’re in love. I assume you don’t need to see your friends fucking to understand that they met someone they’re really into.

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            Nothing is strictly necessary, you can tell instead of show any aspect of a relationship. But if drama is going to show a representative cross section of what human relationships are like, sex will be a part of that like romance and friendship aspects are.

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              It’s not about how no drama should show sex. It’s about how it is regularly getting shoehorned in at the expense of story, character development or run time.

              And they don’t show a representative cross-section. Almost all sex in mainstream films is heteronormative and done by beautiful people. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

              When we see a proportionally accurate representation of queer sex screens on our scenes, I’ll concede that they’re at least showing a broad representation, even if it does ignore all sorts of sexual kinks that would also need to be represented.

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            What if it’s not about love? Sex can be about many things and for the sake of the story.

            Saying it only happens as the result of a perfect romance story is puritan and not beneficial to demystifying sex as an act that humans do.

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              And yet generally they’re romance scenes and not scenes involving lust or rape.

              I am not the one saying it. Hollywood is.

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                No you are speaking from a specific point.

                Poor things had lots of sex, not about love or romance.

                Teeth, is rape.

                Even Pretty Woman has a sex scene that is about the lust of the main character with no kissing to show it.
                There are plenty of examples to prove you wrong as much as you have examples of your point.

                You are the one saying it cause you are making a broad statement from your perspective ignoring all that doesn’t fit into it. It doesnt make you right to selectively pick your examples because it’s the ones you think of and have a problem with you try to apply to the rest of it.

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                  You listed two indie movies that were not made within the Hollywood system and one example from 1990.

                  Are you really going to use those to claim that most sex scenes in Hollywood movies and TVs are not about romance?

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                    Poor Things I watched in an AMC, fuck off with that.

                    You provided no examples and I provided multiple that are big films that played for massive audiences that sex is used for multiple reasons and not singulary one and gratuitous.

                    I am not going to list 20 films cause you would deny them just as easily from your place of predetermined correctness.

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      Do you characters take big stinky poops? Because that’s a real thing too. Do they pop pimples on their body or on their partners? The list goes on. There’s an audience for everything, but it’s pretty obvious sex isn’t as much of a driver for movies anymore.

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          Bowel movements are a vastly more important part of one’s life.

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          In what respect? I feel confident in saying many if not most people take some pleasure in a good poop. Perhaps not as much as having sex but the point remains in a critical part of life.

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            Drama is largely about character relationships and sex is a part of that. There’s rarely any drama to our necessary biological functions. Pooping can be part of a story’s plot like sex, just much less often.