Disclaimer since based on my last comment i know the accusation is coming: i voted for claudia already. I think socialists should vote for Claudia if shes available.

I just also think voting is not the ultimate expression of politics and doesnt mean that much. The “its an endorsement” thing is true, but one extra endorsement does not equal one extra dead Palestinian. Thats just magical thinking. (Also, ive tried telling people the endorsement thing because its what changed my mind about lesser evilism, it doesnt work.)

And the idea that every Kamala voter is horrific evil when many are scared, propagandized, gaslit marginalized people doing what they think they need to do to not die is misguided. You guys claim to be the ultimate propaganda understanders but dont seem to understand its power. Are people still responsible for their actions? Sure. Does a vote of all things matter as an action all that much? Lmao fuck no. Its basically pointless.

Like ive actually talked to liberals about their vote. I didnt even have to touch grass to it! Where their coming from is wrong and ive told them that, but ive seen the effect the lesser evilism propaganda has on their mind. they are not coming from a place of evil with their choice Hating, “not forgiving”, or throwing in the pit (as ive seriosly seen suggested) the 10s of millions of people who will vote Kamala in November is simply not practical. You cant hate humanity to that extent and organize. And you definitly cant desire to kill that many people lmao.

Also, most of you are ex liberals. Meaning most of you have endorsed war crimes with a vote. Probably worth keeping in mind.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    12 hours ago

    I thought this was already pretty clear. The “lesser-evil” mindset is strong and so is the propaganda supporting it. I’m not going to get mad over someone voting Kamala as long as they aren’t a shit head about it.

    But agitating is raising awareness and so continuing to pressure is good imo, even if some get a little overly zealous about it

    • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      10 hours ago

      I’ve seen a shocking amount of comparisons between Kopmala voters and voters for the Nazi party which tbf might be more apt than I think? Was there some sort of genuine 101% Hitler the Nazi party used as an implicitl threat? Not just scaremongering about minorities being that threat, but an actual 101% Hitler party that was the only majorly supported running opposition to literal Hitler?

      • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        9 hours ago

        The important point of similarity between Holocaust Harris and Adolf Hitler is actually that they both committed genocide.

        The important point of similarity between their supporters, is that they are both groups of people who knew that the person they were supporting was committing genocide.

        Hitler didn’t get elected, he got appointed by a liberal due to pressure from business leaders. Harris has already talked about wanting to put Republicans into high level appointments so she’s more like Hindenburg in that way. Of course, once again, the way she’s like Hitler is that they both perpetrated Holocausts.

        I’d also like to clarify that I’m not comparing Harris voters to people who voted for the Nazi party prior to the Holocaust, when the Nazis weren’t in power, during the Weimar Republic. I’m comparing them to Germans who supported the Nazi regime while it fed millions of people into death camps. That’s who they are.

        You might be able to make an argument for libs who aren’t particularly online and only watch mainstream news, but if someone is coming onto hexbear to try to proselytize, they’re online enough that they’re aware of the kind of evidence that has come out. They know what they’re supporting.