• UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Red MAGA are the soccer hooligans of Burgerland politics. I think they’ll be feral hogs whether their cult figure wins or loses.

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    They will continue running their already existing fiefdoms and abusing their already subjugated sub-classes and pushing for more laws at every level to increase their ability to do so without consequences.

  • Idk, they vandalize the White House again, and dems be like maybe-later-honey “Another Jan. 6th”, then proceed to give 1-10 year sentences, and parole if they’re “polite” people

    Then the reactionary victories by a thousand cuts will continue

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    IDK but whether win or lose I’m expecting a LOT of eyeroll inducing AI pictures. CHUDs can’t go a single second without putting any thought they have into an AI image.

    But hey, an extra four years to better ready my exit strategy would be much appreciated.

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    well one guy said he’s so sure trump will win that if he loses then he’s gonna suck my dick. i don’t want this dude to suck my dick but out of principle i might have to make him do it if the time comes.

  • Nothing. There will be some stochastic terrorism and hate crimes probably, from the most unhinged, but the jetski dealers of America are not going to pry themselves out of their McMansions to fight a guerilla war, lol

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      Correct, and I came in here to say it. MAGA Americans are still Americans, and the overwhelming majority of us are completely housebroken.

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    They won’t do violence against the government because they’re all cowards.

    Instead there will be a wave of violence against women, including femicides, because they’ll blame their wives and families and neighbors and random women for voting for Harris and “lying about it.” There’s a gender violence time bomb ticking in the US and it freaks me the fuck out.

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      They won’t do violence against the government because they’re all cowards.

      Didn’t they already do that a number of times in the MAGA era, not just that Jan 6 thing, including ransacking government buildings because of covid lockdowns?

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        True, I guess when I think of violence I don’t think about property damage and there will certainly be isolated lone wolf attacks.

        On a societal level, though, I think it will just manifest as racialized and patriarchal violence as “revenge” for Harris winning.

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    We see a big bump in hate crimes. Trump won’t concede. Dems do yet another performative investigation into voter fraud and find none because there was none. Trump still won’t concede. Liberal legacy media hems and haws about how uncivil it is but ultimately nothing comes of it.

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    I’m a bit of a doomer when it comes to the potential of the American conservative movement to birth a violent revolution. Nothing Ever Happens Gang, take heed:

    January 6th 2021 proved two things to me; first, there is latent revolutionary potential among the conservative bourgeoisie in America. They are willing to fight and die to bring about a utopian future being promised to them by QAnon, they just lack cohesion and a vanguard faction. The blackshirts are ready, they just need their Mussolini.

    Second, it showed that the FBI and other agencies had a major blindspot for the MAGA conservatives, and weren’t embedded deep enough with them to pre-empt something like J6. There are a lot of theories that they must have known but just let it happen anyways to entrap people. But frankly when I see a situation that could be explained by the government having either godlike super-prescience 47D Chess skills as part of a trap, or by organisational incompetence like we saw with the Secret Service back in July in Butler-- I stick with ‘incompetence’. It’s a lot more

    These two things create a perfect storm for the savvier and more prepared folks among the conservative movement. The General Flynns, the Ivan Raiklins, the Ammon and Ryan Bundys, the Dan Bonginos, and the Steve Bannons of the nation. People who want to see the current order completely overthrown, have connections throughout the right-wing media/‘intellectual’ worlds, and a willingness to either use violence or direct other people in using violence. All it takes is loose coordination between these kinds of people and the militia movements, and you’ve got the spark of something bigger beginning. A few attacks on key highways and parts of the electrical infrastructure, and they can create a huge shock across the continent that could have a ripple effect of inspiring the kinds of people who who weren’t at J6 but wish they were.

    If Kamala wins, I fully expect Trump to try and use legal bullshit to try and overturn it, but the conservative bourgeoisie (who fully back him in that, but want to see blood, not lawsuits) might try to kick off a rebellion out west. If they fail, MAGA will say they were feds and forget it ever happened. If they succeed, they can help Trump pressure the Biden admin to relinquish power to Trump in order to avoid a civil war redux.

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      I don’t think they have any revolutionary potential. There are a large number of far-right people willing to do violence, but how many of them are willing to risk losing their lives or their businesses or their treats? They’re only willing to drive their trucks through crowds because they know there’s a good chance they’ll get away with it. They’re also incapable of organizing with their peers, they’ll only attend a meeting if they get to threaten the school board or whatever. They view discipline as an unjust imposition on their freedom.

      They can do terrorism but can’t engage in sustained conflict, they’re basically like Israel settles but less capable and less unified.

      But ultimately the US is declining into some kind of neo-fascism anyway. It doesn’t rely on their revolutionary potential, it’s just the logic of our ruling institutions.

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      January 6th 2021 proved two things to me; first, there is latent revolutionary potential among the conservative bourgeoisie in America

      how can the conservative bourgeoisie rebel against themselves? they already run everything and have everything they want. they’re mad about culture war issues but that’s never going to be enough to get people to risk their lives in large enough numbers to lead to a “revolution.” i think they’ll accelerate the pace at which they take over the deep state and impose christo-fascism from above, but that doesn’t require anything like a revolution

      Death to America