Imagine wandering down your local high street on a Summer's evening and being able to find diverse market stalls, alfresco eats, as well as live music.
It’s far simpler than that. Where is it in place, why and how right now (ignoring effectiveness). None apply to Australia, we will never have both the population or geographical size/density required for our cities to implement this in any meaningful manner within the next generation
Your argument seems to be that if it hasn’t been done anywhere in similar conditions, it’s not something worth pursuing. That is how we avoid any progress as a society, science would not exist and education would be wasteful. I’m really confused about your logic here, you don’t seem to be interested in reducing congestion in cities beyond adding more lanes to roads encouraging inefficient forms of transport. I don’t want there to be no cars in the city but I want there to be substantially less and the only way forward is better public transport and more pedestrian friendly areas.
Your argument that people die without cars is confusing also, doesn’t congestion on main roads make it difficult for emergency vehicles to get to their destinations in time to stop a fire from spreading, apprehend someone committing assault or rush someone who is dying to hospital. Furthermore, many deaths occur on the road.
we will never have both the population or geographical size/density required for our cities to implement this in any meaningful manner within the next generation
Why is size a requirement? Also wouldn’t it be smart to get ahead of future growth by creating sustainable habits now rather than leaving it for someone else to clean up in the future?
You ignored everything I said to make up a straw man. Cool story.
Population size and density are utterly dependent on reaching serviceability. Australia will never get to this point as being claimed here. Why does the rural regions not have pumped water, public transport, garbage collection ect same reason further up the scale. Are we anywhere near the idealism of NY and wont be for a very very long time.
I didn’t ignore what you said, you’re dismissing my argument as a straw man since you can’t engage with it. You keep claiming people are reading your arguments wrong but you seldom explain yourself due to an overriding belief that you are right. I’ve still got no idea what you want, I think it’s best we end this discussion here
It’s far simpler than that. Where is it in place, why and how right now (ignoring effectiveness). None apply to Australia, we will never have both the population or geographical size/density required for our cities to implement this in any meaningful manner within the next generation
Your argument seems to be that if it hasn’t been done anywhere in similar conditions, it’s not something worth pursuing. That is how we avoid any progress as a society, science would not exist and education would be wasteful. I’m really confused about your logic here, you don’t seem to be interested in reducing congestion in cities beyond adding more lanes to roads encouraging inefficient forms of transport. I don’t want there to be no cars in the city but I want there to be substantially less and the only way forward is better public transport and more pedestrian friendly areas.
Your argument that people die without cars is confusing also, doesn’t congestion on main roads make it difficult for emergency vehicles to get to their destinations in time to stop a fire from spreading, apprehend someone committing assault or rush someone who is dying to hospital. Furthermore, many deaths occur on the road.
Why is size a requirement? Also wouldn’t it be smart to get ahead of future growth by creating sustainable habits now rather than leaving it for someone else to clean up in the future?
You ignored everything I said to make up a straw man. Cool story.
Population size and density are utterly dependent on reaching serviceability. Australia will never get to this point as being claimed here. Why does the rural regions not have pumped water, public transport, garbage collection ect same reason further up the scale. Are we anywhere near the idealism of NY and wont be for a very very long time.
I didn’t ignore what you said, you’re dismissing my argument as a straw man since you can’t engage with it. You keep claiming people are reading your arguments wrong but you seldom explain yourself due to an overriding belief that you are right. I’ve still got no idea what you want, I think it’s best we end this discussion here