Pfizer will list its COVID-19 treatment Paxlovid at a price of $1,390 per five-day course when it soon hits the commercial market, the drugmaker confirmed to Axios.
Why it matters: Paxlovid’s new listed price, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, will be more than twice the $529 paid by the federal government, which until now has maintained the entire U.S. supply of the key antiviral medication.
And $4.99 outside the United States.
this is fucking criminal
Maybe. Definite grounds for violation of price gouging laws unless another producer can easily fill the supply gap, which is entirely reliant on how much time is left before the change AND the availability of production methods which are beholden to intellectual property laws.
it’s criminal on a human level, not a law level. idgaf about gouging laws. charging $1400 for something that can be lifesaving is fucking criminal. especially when it’s more than DOUBLE what the govt was paying for it. If you want to know how much a human life is worth to these fucks, start here.
Well I wish morality equaled legality, but sadly the two are separate. It’s disgusting, abhorring, incorrigible, foul, etc. But its legality is dependent on the regional laws.
Fucking monsters, capitalism is a fucking cancer
As a high-risk individual, this fucking sucks. Capitalist vultures trying to bankrupt me everywhere I turn.
Oh dear I read this wrong at first, thinking you were flexing that you take risks. I’m thinking “well my life is boring and this sucks for me too?” 🤣
Health insurance companies probably finding some obscure study to deny claims for Paxlovid. Or just follow UHC claim practices. Deny all claims initially. Slow roll it.
Patient either gives up or pays out of pocket.
I’m guessing they’ll claim it lacks sufficient evidence for it’s efficacy and call it experimental.
This is criminal.
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Honestly 1400 for a 5 day course of this is more reasonable than I expected. It’s still unreasonable, but I just figured it’s be way higher.
Copyright and patent laws need to die.
Apparently it really doesn’t work as well as it claims to, so maybe this will drive development of a better antiviral.
It has an 89% efficacy rate in reducing hospitalization and death among the unvaccinated. I’m sorry that’s not “good enough” for you.
I’m just going off the information that my health care provider gave me. She said they only use it on high risk individuals because it’s not as effective as claimed.
Might want to find a new health care provider.
She may be taking you for a ride.
It does work, amazingly. I had Covid a few times and took Paxlovid the last time. It works better than any drug I’ve taken. After taking the first dose, there were no more Covid symptoms within 4-6 hours.
The problem with Paxlovid (besides the cost) is that it gives you a new set of side effects: weird joint and muscle pain, a metallic taste in the mouth, etc. They’re better than Covid though. And it won’t kill you.
Just because it worked for you doesn’t mean that the effectiveness in their trials represents real world numbers. I’m not pulling this out of my ass, I was told this by a medical professional.
There are many types of “medical professionals”. Only a vast minority actually read and interpret trial data.
I’m going to trust my direct experience with the drug (I know it works) and real world studies like below.
Conclusions: This study suggests that in the era of Omicron and in real-life settings, Paxlovid is highly effective in reducing the risk of severe COVID-19 or mortality.
Excuse me, that study only examined 140,219 patients. You’ll need WAY more, at least one million, to argue against the anecdotal opinion of a random, unspecified ‘medical professional’.
/s so hard
Only 2.6% of the sample were given paxlovid, and they didn’t control for vaccination status.
Also, it only covered 1 month nearly 2 years ago in a single country, and the virus has mutated several times since then.
The best part about having a background in statistics is watching people who don’t understand statistics try to explain why the math that doesn’t support their point actually does, somehow.
Statistics don’t matter if your methodology is flawed.
Paxlovid is a 3CL protease inhibitor. It modifies the primary enzyme that is common across all cornavirus.
dude’s not saying it doesn’t work. he’s saying it doesn’t work as well as advertised. that perhaps doesn’t mean it’s only 50% effective for 100% people. perhaps it’s 100% effective for 20% of people. Think dude.
Yeah I’m gonna go ahead and say the guy throwing out accusations like false advertising is the one that needs to think a little more.
Paxlovid has only ever been advertised as something that “can reduce the risk of hospitalization and death by around 89%”.
The idea that, somehow, all of the people associated with coming to the “89%” number are somehow magically also associated with a subset of the population that responds well to it is fucking nonsense. It’s the exact same garbage logic that conspiracy theorists use.
Ah, that was the era of omicron. We’re over 21 months and several variants past that now, and I was given the information about paxlovid last week.
Also, that study only covers a single month in Israel in 2022 and only 2.6% of the sample was given paxlovid.
Your secret information that you decline to share…
Paxlovid obviously works, or they couldn’t raise the price of it. Insurance wouldn’t cover it.
I shared it. A medical professional told me.
don’t feed the trolls dude. what you’re saying makes perfect sense. people are just blinded.
I was told this by a medical professional.
What about all the medical professionals that disagree with your medical professional?
This is why people like you should keep quiet on matters they know nothing about. If you want to understand something, you have to research it yourself.
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Yeah man, nothing ever happens
I had fucking ashtray mouth AND covid rebound, I wasn’t impressed.
Remember when the COVID vaccine came out and all the “nationalize healthcare” mfs started worshipping pharmaceutical companies as the greatest thing in history? Pretty funny, huh?
Magnificent! You’ve successfully constructed and attacked a straw-man by conflating economics with medical science, and displayed your total ignorance of … everything … in the process…
Remember when the COVID vaccine came out and all the “don’t nationalize healthcare” mfs started making up strawmen to argue against because they have no idea what other people actually want for society? Pretty funny, huh?
No, I don’t remember that. I feel like you’re making stuff up.
Here ya go. My point being is that two years ago if you criticized pharmaceutical companies as still being greedy, soulless corporations you’d be laughed at and shadow banned for daring to insult our world’s saviors.
Lol. I’m getting second hand cringe. Please stop.
What even is that link supposed to prove?
I can’t decide if using a picture of a tattoo on Reddit as a ‘source’ is better or worse than a YouTube video with a crazy, ranting flat earther, which is what I see most often.
“This single anecdote should prove my assumptions about billions of people”
…no? Because that didn’t happen. “The” vaccine was multiple different ones, including some made in China and the UK.
You have a weird understanding of the situation.
Understanding is a generous word to use for them I think.
Weren’t the vaccines mostly paid for by the government?
I did not pay a cent. Got 3 shots.
you pay taxes though, do you not?
Yeah. I forgot that I live not in US.
If the government paid, you paid through taxes, you just didn’t pay at the counter when you got them.
Yes we all know how money works but thanks.
Apparently not.
You weren’t the person who said they didn’t pay in response to a comment about government paying so I have no idea what the point of your comment is other than “I am smart and I want to passively put you down.”
Everyone knows their taxes pay for the government dude.
Also I didn’t pay for my COVID shot cause I got it in a country I don’t pay taxes in haha
Just like nationalized healthcare.
I’m guessing you’re an antivaxxer? Everyone still recognized the bs Pfizer and Moderna did during the pandemic. The world is not black and white, bad companies can still do things that benefit society.
everyone I dont like is a nazi
Wrong. Got vaccinated within the first month of vaccines being given to the public and got boosted last week
Why did you use a quote and not use any of his words, or even the gist of what he said? At no point in that comment did he approach saying that
Because generally the only way idiots can make a point is by making shit up.
What a clown comment. Other countries with universal healthcare pay significantly less for care and pharmaceuticals than Americans because their governments handle the negotiations.
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