• letsgocrazy@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I love how vigilante justice has slipped in through the back door again.

    “Oh but you don’t think we’re should hit nazis?”

    No. I don’t think you should decide who is a nazi,.

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      This reeks of Nazi apologia. There are plenty of hateful groups out here today using the same exact tactics as the Nazis did while avoiding the name because of the stigma around it and you think we’re the issue for calling them by what they are. Ridiculous.

      • cricket97@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        People are called nazis because they don’t think males can become females. I think it’s a good idea not to let terminally online leftist nerds decide who is a nazi

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          The first people the Nazis went after were quite literally trans folks…

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            no they weren’t. that is a rewriting of history to fit your agenda. and is also unrelated to what I was saying. the concept of “gender” being malleable did not come into place until the 50’s at minimum.

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                No where does it say trans people were the first targets of nazis. It just says that a homosexual clinic by a jewish man was targeted, which is true. But the nazis were targeted jews/homosexuals, not trans people. Trans people were barely a concept back then. There’s a reason trans people are not mentioned anywhere on the wikipedia article for victims of the holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

                • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  That’s just not true at all, they had transvestite certificates prior to hitler taking power in 1933. What kind of made up revisionist history are you pushing to claim trans people were barely a concept? They got government issued documents to allow them to change their name and cross dress. What a line of made up bullshit.

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                    Oh please, transvestite certificates were just doctors notes. I’m against trying to pretend that hitler targeted transgender people when in reality it was homosexuals he was targeting. There also were maybe a couple dozen of them.

                  • cricket97@lemmy.world
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                    Can you please point to where it says transgender people were the first victims of the nazis? That is the claim i’m disputing. It seems pretty clear that hitler targeted homosexuals, of which transvestites were included.

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        People tend to inflationary use the term Nazi for everyone they politicaly don’t agree with.

        We had similar stuff going on a few centuries back, witch hunts to be exact. People used the term Witch to get rid of people they just didn’t like. Even if they were innocent.

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          Ok smart guy, so if I secretly want to murder my political opponents but also get away with it and have everyone think I’m a good person, what would you recommend I do? Since you’re such an expert.

          • Grayox@lemmy.mlOP
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            Nazis should never be considered political opponents, they should be considered enemy combatants, we quite literally fought a World fucking War over this. . .

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                Lmao no it doesnt, what are you dumb or something. The cold war wasnt a war it was an arms race. Your lack of historical context is asinine.

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      Im talking about the ones proudly waving flags with swastikas on em.

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        How do you know they’re not just right-angle enthusiasts?

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        then you only get the tip of the iceberg.

        The only thing you accomplish with this wish is the formation of groups who come after people who get called nazi, even if they are innocent.

        This already happened a few centuries ago. Back then people used the term Witch to get rid of people they just didn’t like.

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      If it looks like a nazi, walks like a nazi quacks like a nazi and has a swastika flag, its a nazi