• tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    That’s a good distinction I hadn’t considered, but I don’t think I’m against anyone owning their own means of production. I applaud them even, so long as they don’t conspire to keep others down.

    Millionaires do exploit the working class with their relative wealth, but the exploitation level is almost nothing in comparison to sheer levels of open corruption and wealth warfare employed by the 1%.

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      11 months ago

      The thing is that the value of the commodities – what the means of production produce – is other people not having them, i.e. it is market value rather than use value to the bourgeois, and therein a vehicle for the extraction of labor value from workers.

      I have no interest in moralizing about anyone, what I am saying is that it puts the owners of these establishments, land, etc. in an antagonistic relationship with workers, i.e. they have material interests that are broadly opposed to that of workers and incentive to undermine labor power in favor of power for the owning class, to which both they and those billionaires belong.

      You can find an Engels here and there, but the most obvious and direct implications of their conditions make the bourgeoisie as a class, even the smaller members, the enemy of workers.