The implicit chauvinism in this whole ‘NATO training’ narrative is astounding anyway. If someone should be training and learning frome someone, it should be NATO from Ukraine, not the other way around. Outside of the US NATO countries have literally 0 institutional experience with conventional peer warfare. Even the US is over 30 years removed from anything resembling that. Their entire docrine and structure is geared towards fighting irregular forces in the periphery with total air, artillery, intelligence and every other superiority. Which isn’t the case in Ukraine in any fucking way.
The AFU has that experience, knowledge and doctrine. If it wasn’t such a reactionary puppet shithole I’d feel bad for the AFU soldiers fighting that war for 8 years and then being schooled by some NATO wanker who’s maybe shot at a peasant with an AK once. What’s some German officer gonna teach the Ukrainian military? The Bundeswehr has been playing logistics and practicing sitting in bases while their equipment rots away since WW2 and padded itself on the shoulders for leaving the little combat to Nazi SOF or the Yanks. They have 0 experience relevant to this conflict. It’s madness that Westoids are so deluded they believe the issue isn’t with them.
Relevant is some Ukrainian soldier in an interview with the WaPo (iirc) telling a story how they asked their German trainers how they should deal with minefields and the guy telling them they should ‘just bypass them’. That’s the training these guys are getting for the slaughterhouse.
So you can’t quote it, because you made it up, gotcha. Can you then at least quote me expressing sympathy for the AFU? Like quote the whole sentence where I did that.
They’re clearly pissed off at “If it wasn’t such a reactionary puppet shithole I’d feel bad for the AFU soldiers” because I guess they must’ve skipped reading the entire start of that sentence lol
The implicit chauvinism in this whole ‘NATO training’ narrative is astounding anyway. If someone should be training and learning frome someone, it should be NATO from Ukraine, not the other way around. Outside of the US NATO countries have literally 0 institutional experience with conventional peer warfare. Even the US is over 30 years removed from anything resembling that. Their entire docrine and structure is geared towards fighting irregular forces in the periphery with total air, artillery, intelligence and every other superiority. Which isn’t the case in Ukraine in any fucking way.
The AFU has that experience, knowledge and doctrine. If it wasn’t such a reactionary puppet shithole I’d feel bad for the AFU soldiers fighting that war for 8 years and then being schooled by some NATO wanker who’s maybe shot at a peasant with an AK once. What’s some German officer gonna teach the Ukrainian military? The Bundeswehr has been playing logistics and practicing sitting in bases while their equipment rots away since WW2 and padded itself on the shoulders for leaving the little combat to Nazi SOF or the Yanks. They have 0 experience relevant to this conflict. It’s madness that Westoids are so deluded they believe the issue isn’t with them.
Relevant is some Ukrainian soldier in an interview with the WaPo (iirc) telling a story how they asked their German trainers how they should deal with minefields and the guy telling them they should ‘just bypass them’. That’s the training these guys are getting for the slaughterhouse.
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Literally who’s saying any of that?
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Quote me talking about Azov, Aidar, C14 and dismissing Donbass Russians being shelled and raped.
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So you can’t quote it, because you made it up, gotcha. Can you then at least quote me expressing sympathy for the AFU? Like quote the whole sentence where I did that.
They’re clearly pissed off at “If it wasn’t such a reactionary puppet shithole I’d feel bad for the AFU soldiers” because I guess they must’ve skipped reading the entire start of that sentence lol