• aleph@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    The point you are making is that Stoltenburg made some kind of shocking admission, when in fact he did not.

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      No, the point I’m making is that a lot of people are bleating that Russia invaded Ukraine completely unprovoked last year which is completely at odds with reality. The latest admissions from Stoltenberg is just another piece of evidence that the conflict was going on since the 2014 coup, and that NATO has been deeply involved in it during this whole time. While you are correct that this has been reported on previously, such reporting has completely stopped after Russia got directly involved in the war. Furthermore, people such as Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer, who point these facts out today have been completely deplatformed by the mainstream media. They now publish articles on substack instead of mainstream papers, and are reduced to giving interviews on youtube channels.

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        No, the point I’m making is that a lot of people are bleating that Russia invaded Ukraine completely unprovoked last year

        While you are correct that this has been reported on previously, such reporting has completely stopped after Russia got directly involved in the war. Furthermore, people such as Jeffrey Sachs and

        Do you have any sources to support this? You’re making this out to be the general position of the media, but I haven’t seen much evidence of that.

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          Sources to support what exactly? Show me an article talking about NATO involvement in Ukrainian conflict prior to Russia’s invasion that was published after February 2022, or any interviews with people who give historical context for the conflict in mainstream media. Sachs and Mearsheimer are prominent experts on this, why can we not find their views published in papers like NYT or WSJ?