• Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.netOP
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    Guantanamo Bay doesn’t have a civilian population.

    I’m opposed to any US involvement in this conflict but still think war is bad even if one of the country’s involved is a US pawn.

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        China’s economy rising and forming ties with other developing nations is doing more overall damage than starting another hot war with a 3rd party allied with the US. I’m for pursing diplomatic and economic means of weakening the empire before resorting to wars that will inflict harm on civilian populations who didn’t ask to be part of this game of geopolitical chess. The USSR fought American Imperialism but they didn’t blunder into poorly planned armed conflicts and generally tried exhausting other means before getting the guns out.

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          Magic it is then. The US ruling class will start a hot war with China (while making sure to use the corporate media to blame China the entire time) long before it ever surrenders hegemony to the CPC.

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            Alright have fun watching Caracas get burned to the ground when this goes tits up for Venezuela.

            Rescinding this comment cuz it was in poor taste and I was heated. Still think this conflict will likely go badly for Venezuela but I shouldn’t make lite of it.

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              That’s a fucked up response. We support AES. You’re the one choosing to drop support at the first sight of something you don’t like, and clearly without investigation, since you keep repeating “the US is not involved” and “theres no justification.” Then you go straight to masking it with concern trolling.

              Serioulsy, take a fucking a break and rethink before you post shit like

              Alright have fun watching Caracas get burned to the ground when this goes tits up for Venezuela.

              again. Because thats straight up smuglord brained

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                “theres no justification.”

                Never said that.

                “the US is not involved”

                Not directly yet, if they do get directly involved then I think Venezuela is screwed.

                We support AES.

                Yes and I think that includes me saying when I think an AES state is about to do something that’s probably a very bad idea for them to do.

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                    Yeah I’ll cop that was a dumb thing to say, I was heated. I still think if a war breaks out it’s gonna go bad for Venezuela so if nothing else I’m not happy about this.

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          poorly planned armed conflicts

          Are you dissapointed that the VZ government didn’t consult with you first before taking action for their best interests?

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            I don’t think VZ really has the military capacity to take on the US or even a force being backed by the US. They ain’t Russia.

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              The US is involved in 2 major conflicts rn, Ukraine and Israel. But no, VZ should’ve consulted with you first.

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                  Why on earth would we smugly criticize the actions of an anti-imperialist nation and victim of US imperialism like VZ, like you’re doing right now?

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                    If I think it’s a bad idea I say so, I’m just some asshole on the internet just like you, nobody consults us about anything before doing it. If you wanna make your case for why it’s actually a great idea do so but you’ll not be influencing anything besides maybe me.

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          I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. China is doing things differently yes but they’re also on the complete other side of the world. Venezuela doesn’t have the ability to build its productive forces like China because of its proximity to the United States.