“Bernie’s supporters have been very, very damaging to him, and it’s really frustrating to see and experience. They don’t realize how influential they are. It’s frustrating to feel like they are hurting him,” Ocasio-Cortez said in the midst of the 2020 primary, according to the book. “I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate.”

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She also worried that the behavior of Sanders’s supporters were “forcing an unnecessary choice between class analysis and race analysis” through their “behavior, not so much policy.”

Ocasio-Cortez made those comments as she mulled whether to endorse Sanders’s 2020 campaign, even though she had worked as an organizer on his 2016 campaign.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ocasio-cortez-bernie-bros-reactionary-left-wing-book-2023-12

It’s socialism or barbarism dawg

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    All the exit polling I saw said otherwise, Bernie won all groups(but especially poc and queer people) below 55, while biden swooped up the Olds both black and white, and Warren was left scraping by on a fraction of the college cracker professional set.

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    I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate.

    Did it feel that way??? Cause it definitely was not that way in reality

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      I feel Obama was, on the national level, the final straw in terms of any dispossessed feeling they could get anything going through respectability. Anything after was vain attempts to do something/anything (such as the Trump-to-Biden) but I think we all knew the game was up. Crumbs will be doled out, at best, and the overall state of affairs was going to be a gradual decline. Canada is undergoing that now with Trudeau. You could say this is all part of a longer cycle but I think that neglects the other aspects. The world isn’t blown apart nor does it feel so dire like it will be - there’s only the sense of terminal decline and a refusal by anything in authority to take remotely appropriate action about it.

      Since Obama, its been gradually more agreed that anything good isn’t going to come back again without one having to be quite a bit more than just a loud heckler. What we do about it (from clocking out to resignation to terrorism to armed revolt) depends on the individual and sub/culture. All indicators is that the ‘middle’ is tightening hard (and with the fewer remaining being more and more annoying about it; to the point that ‘centrism’ mockery is increasingly happening outside of the Internet) and otherwise radicalism increasing - whether just in passive sentiments or actually extreme actions.

      There’s few to no one left to trust and this is what happens when we don’t have that. Trans people feeling betrayed and harmed matters in a society that now allows them to have loud broadcasted grievances and actually have generational allies (currently primarily Gen Z), for example. Shifts that could happen over decades (or earlier, arguably centuries) now happen over years, and its actually a relevant thing that Obama can be quickly looked up and viewed as anti-trans. Now, a needle is moved and someone who might have felt the balm of ‘well at least Obama was good’, can’t even conjure up that idea as easily as otherwise. Some may say this is because everything’s becoming so terribly left - I say its because we’ve been so delusionally conservative its actively cancerous. In this matter and so many others.

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    So she believed the media hype about Warren during the primaries. AOC’s peak popularity was during the Trump years when being a snarky Twitter reply guy got you attention. Early interviews after her win revealed how big of a lib she was with how she defended Obama and allowed herself to be restrained just by having a fellow Puerto Rican congresswoman talk to her.

    She was kind of promising early on with the Green New Deal and fiery speeches, but Pelosi putting the muzzle on and the January 6 insurrection was all it took for her to shut up and sit down. Now she gets ratio’d by Elon on Twitter and continues to have terrible foreign policy takes.

    She’s the type of American liberal poc that is all race issues at the most shallow level and will talk a big game about economics while continuing to play the neoliberal game behind the scene.

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    Didn’t she literally do a show with Hasan?

    Like, is there anyone that is more of a Bernie Bro than Hasan was? If I was going to describe a Bernie Bro to anyone back when that election was happening I would have pointed at that himbo.

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      She was just being a very good politician.

      It was good exposure for her brand and she was quick to capitalize on that younger generation audience.

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      maybe this is a power play to eliminate Bernie as the face of the social democratic movement in the US and become its leader in a machiavellian way

      lol, but its probably just her calling for “civility”

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        I think she’s realised that she won’t go into the next election season as a progressive hero, but as a sell out, so she’s trying to get out in front of it.

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    AHHHHHHH THE WHOLE THING WAS A SMEAR, BERNIE SUPPORTERS WERE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE THE LEAST RUDE OF ANY OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES’ PRIMARY VOTERS

    DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB

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      REMEMBER PUMAS

      REMEBER WHEN 25% OF CLINTONS SUPPORTERS PROUDLY VOTED FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE TO SPITE OBAMA FOR BEATING HILLARY

      REMBER WHEN THOSE SAME PEOPLE TURNED AROUND AND ACCUSED BERNIE SUPPORTERS OF DOING THE EXACT SAME THING EVEN THOUGH EXIT POLLS EXIST

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          I think you’re missing the fourth bullet point, blame literally every single thing in the observeable universe other than yourself.

          But then again there isn’t a gopblestitouoty party so it not quiet as pithy.

          Also that acronym came out way closer to being prounouncable than I expected.

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    The whole respectability politics thing makes me actively want what’s worst for the US and Americans at large sometimes. What, everyone else get to be boorish shitheads and i can’t even fling a turd or two back at them?

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    AOC is Nancy Pelosi, I’ve been saying it for years. a lauded “”“progressive”“” in her youth, only to become ultimately entrenched in the demonic system, make a lot of money in it, and defend it.

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    Lmao, fraternal order of the Bernard brethren strike again, this time striking fear into the hearts of sellout AOC (an even bigger sellout than cowardly Bernie)

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          Yea I think she might have actually bought the chuds bulkshit and started believing she was a hard-core progressive since chuds kept calling her a communist.

          Meanwhile in reality she was tone policing actual communists to make sure they weren’t rude to fascists because that “makes her movement look bad”

          Also her and the sex trafficking pedo Geatz were awfully fucking chummy there for a bit.

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            Back when AOC first won and was a card carrying DSA, my wife was also doing DSA and reached out to her team/local DSA to ask her to make a statement on anti-imperialism and her team responded back that they won’t give her the message and to not mention ‘anti-imperialism’ to them again.

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      The year is 2030. Amidst popular protests against her failure to enact the promised healthcare reform, President Ocasio-Cortez wept on national television as she promised to restore law and order before the protests further divide the country. She then called in the Freikorps Proud Boys to crush the opposition.

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        Fr at least they are not going to bother you with complicated policy ideas that will pit you against the imperialists, the crypto fascists, and the fascists.