Do people really think all meaning in life derives from art? I agree with the sentiment in this image, but TBH that feels like a pretty bleak outlook to have. I think art is a form of expression, which is the same reason that it’s impossible to kill and the slop will never replace it.
The comment directly says that without art life is meaningless. This really seems like a reversal of cause and effect - art has meaning because of life, not the other way around.
I agree on all points, but I think the bleakness is somewhat of a reversal of cause and effect. You would have to make a world pretty bleak to even come close to trying to eliminate art. It’s impossible.
It depends on the way you define art. Being able to move freely could be seen as a form of art and your freedom isn’t essential to anyone’s happiness either. You could very well just exist and do what I tell you to because I know better. Drama is a form of art too, there’s no reason for me to reply like this and so on :P
I just think they’ve got cause and effect backwards. The meaning in art comes from life, not the other way around. Life creates art, that’s why art has meaning. IDK, the idea that anything could render life “meaningless” seems very bleak to me, and I feel like that goes together with the idea that it’s even possible to eliminate art.
I agree with what you’re saying, but it demonstrates how art is actually unkillable. It’s just a natural part of life.
In the hellworld that we live in a lot of us latch onto art to give life meaning. While you may be technically correct, I don’t think it’s a hill worth dying on.
If art is what gives meaning to people’s lives then who are we to judge.
That’s fair, I’m not looking to judge. I just think it leads to really bleak outlooks. This person appears to believe that art can be snuffed out and that the meaning in life can be eliminated.
While I agree with you that art will be there for as long as humans exist (since it’s something a lot of us like to do), access to other’s art might be severely diminished, especially in atomized societies.
Let’s be real, for a lot of people, internet is the source for most of their art enjoyment. As more and more of the internet is filled with soulless AI slop, it might be more and more difficult to find real art here.
I also don’t anticipate that AI will fully replace art on the internet - if you look hard enough, you will always be able to find niche communities of people doing their thing. E.g. I am quite fond of art communities here on lemmy, which seem to be mostly AI-free for now (since there’s no monetary incentive to posting here).
But I can see how someone who loves art and finds all their life’s meaning in it can be concerned with all the slop filling up mainstream artsy social media like instagram/pinterest/music streaming/etc.
I also think it’s possible art came before life, but an unconstrained form of art would ultimately be unable to express itself, it would decide to scatter itself into uncountable little pieces. A lot of those pieces despise their flaws, they now possess, wishing to return to a perfect world, not realizing they’re heading towards cataclysm.
So in a sense what I am also saying is you need both to work in tandem, towards a path of liberation, but I have no clue what happens at the end of this road.
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Do people really think all meaning in life derives from art? I agree with the sentiment in this image, but TBH that feels like a pretty bleak outlook to have. I think art is a form of expression, which is the same reason that it’s impossible to kill and the slop will never replace it.
The comment directly says that without art life is meaningless. This really seems like a reversal of cause and effect - art has meaning because of life, not the other way around.
I mean, a world without art would be pretty bleak, I think a lot of people might find life pretty miserable without it.
However, I also believe it’s impossible to stop people from making art. It’s part of who we are.
I agree on all points, but I think the bleakness is somewhat of a reversal of cause and effect. You would have to make a world pretty bleak to even come close to trying to eliminate art. It’s impossible.
(some) people have to make their own meaning in life so that might be the thing they found for themselves and are clinging to.
It depends on the way you define art. Being able to move freely could be seen as a form of art and your freedom isn’t essential to anyone’s happiness either. You could very well just exist and do what I tell you to because I know better. Drama is a form of art too, there’s no reason for me to reply like this and so on :P
I just think they’ve got cause and effect backwards. The meaning in art comes from life, not the other way around. Life creates art, that’s why art has meaning. IDK, the idea that anything could render life “meaningless” seems very bleak to me, and I feel like that goes together with the idea that it’s even possible to eliminate art.
I agree with what you’re saying, but it demonstrates how art is actually unkillable. It’s just a natural part of life.
In the hellworld that we live in a lot of us latch onto art to give life meaning. While you may be technically correct, I don’t think it’s a hill worth dying on.
If art is what gives meaning to people’s lives then who are we to judge.
That’s fair, I’m not looking to judge. I just think it leads to really bleak outlooks. This person appears to believe that art can be snuffed out and that the meaning in life can be eliminated.
I mean, if their finding meaning in life is art, then they’re justified in hating AI for that exact reason.
What are we supposed to say, “just find meaning in life somewhere else lol!” ??
While I agree with you that art will be there for as long as humans exist (since it’s something a lot of us like to do), access to other’s art might be severely diminished, especially in atomized societies.
Let’s be real, for a lot of people, internet is the source for most of their art enjoyment. As more and more of the internet is filled with soulless AI slop, it might be more and more difficult to find real art here.
I also don’t anticipate that AI will fully replace art on the internet - if you look hard enough, you will always be able to find niche communities of people doing their thing. E.g. I am quite fond of art communities here on lemmy, which seem to be mostly AI-free for now (since there’s no monetary incentive to posting here).
But I can see how someone who loves art and finds all their life’s meaning in it can be concerned with all the slop filling up mainstream artsy social media like instagram/pinterest/music streaming/etc.
I like the hopeful interpretation.
I also think it’s possible art came before life, but an unconstrained form of art would ultimately be unable to express itself, it would decide to scatter itself into uncountable little pieces. A lot of those pieces despise their flaws, they now possess, wishing to return to a perfect world, not realizing they’re heading towards cataclysm.
So in a sense what I am also saying is you need both to work in tandem, towards a path of liberation, but I have no clue what happens at the end of this road.
I feel like it’s a bit of both. People create art, art inspires peoples actions and so on.