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You know what irks me the most? The idea that the AI will eventually make “things” better than the “things” made by humans. Just because bazinga, or whatever.
Based on what evidence, exactly? All it has produced is inferior imitations. The imitations get better at imitating but they don’t get better.
And maybe there is some light at the end of the tunnel where this technology is paired with the greatest theoreticians and the Hall of Justice and all the Power Rangers in whatever jumpsuit-bound scifi fuckhole bazinga suck future they envision.
But tell me how in the fuck it writing shitty articles and making piss filtered comics and clips of Trump flying the poo-poo jet are in any way going to achieve this? Where is the connection? Do they just shrug?
I’ve come to the conclusion that these techno-utopia types don’t care about the details of how whatever tech “revolution” they’re glazing at the moment will make everything better, or even if it actually will. They’re just addicted to the feeling that it will, that there must always be more progress and more technological breakthroughs that fundamentally change society for the better. It’s why they can go from “crypto is to banking what the car was to horses” to “NFTs are to assets what the car was to horses” to now “AI is to creative arts what the car was to horses” despite being wrong every time.
It’s like evangelicals that get all giddy over the idea of “God will provide” when so many go without. The truth of the matter isn’t important, the euphoria of the idea is what matters to them.
AI art has absolutely no emotion to it whatsoever because AI does not experience emotion, emotion is the core component of what makes art so enjoyable and meaningful. Otherwise it has nothing to say, and in the words of Tom Lehrer, if you have nothing to say, then you should just shut up.
“I don’t know how you musicians do it, but this world would be a very meaningless place without you.” - A lady on the bus I spoke to once
I hope you upvoted her
Seriously, legendary lady. And please continue making music/playing
please continue making music/playing
I’ve been out of the game for a while, but I hope to get back into it soon.
Thanks for those words. I needed the encouragement.
Ladies on the bus are great!
just because the people who push for and make AI dont have humanity does not mean I have to give mine up.
Well said!
Do people really think all meaning in life derives from art? I agree with the sentiment in this image, but TBH that feels like a pretty bleak outlook to have. I think art is a form of expression, which is the same reason that it’s impossible to kill and the slop will never replace it.
The comment directly says that without art life is meaningless. This really seems like a reversal of cause and effect - art has meaning because of life, not the other way around.
I mean, a world without art would be pretty bleak, I think a lot of people might find life pretty miserable without it.
However, I also believe it’s impossible to stop people from making art. It’s part of who we are.
I agree on all points, but I think the bleakness is somewhat of a reversal of cause and effect. You would have to make a world pretty bleak to even come close to trying to eliminate art. It’s impossible.
(some) people have to make their own meaning in life so that might be the thing they found for themselves and are clinging to.
It depends on the way you define art. Being able to move freely could be seen as a form of art and your freedom isn’t essential to anyone’s happiness either. You could very well just exist and do what I tell you to because I know better. Drama is a form of art too, there’s no reason for me to reply like this and so on :P
I just think they’ve got cause and effect backwards. The meaning in art comes from life, not the other way around. Life creates art, that’s why art has meaning. IDK, the idea that anything could render life “meaningless” seems very bleak to me, and I feel like that goes together with the idea that it’s even possible to eliminate art.
I agree with what you’re saying, but it demonstrates how art is actually unkillable. It’s just a natural part of life.
In the hellworld that we live in a lot of us latch onto art to give life meaning. While you may be technically correct, I don’t think it’s a hill worth dying on.
If art is what gives meaning to people’s lives then who are we to judge.
That’s fair, I’m not looking to judge. I just think it leads to really bleak outlooks. This person appears to believe that art can be snuffed out and that the meaning in life can be eliminated.
I mean, if their finding meaning in life is art, then they’re justified in hating AI for that exact reason.
What are we supposed to say, “just find meaning in life somewhere else lol!” ??
While I agree with you that art will be there for as long as humans exist (since it’s something a lot of us like to do), access to other’s art might be severely diminished, especially in atomized societies.
Let’s be real, for a lot of people, internet is the source for most of their art enjoyment. As more and more of the internet is filled with soulless AI slop, it might be more and more difficult to find real art here.
I also don’t anticipate that AI will fully replace art on the internet - if you look hard enough, you will always be able to find niche communities of people doing their thing. E.g. I am quite fond of art communities here on lemmy, which seem to be mostly AI-free for now (since there’s no monetary incentive to posting here).
But I can see how someone who loves art and finds all their life’s meaning in it can be concerned with all the slop filling up mainstream artsy social media like instagram/pinterest/music streaming/etc.
I like the hopeful interpretation.
I also think it’s possible art came before life, but an unconstrained form of art would ultimately be unable to express itself, it would decide to scatter itself into uncountable little pieces. A lot of those pieces despise their flaws, they now possess, wishing to return to a perfect world, not realizing they’re heading towards cataclysm.
So in a sense what I am also saying is you need both to work in tandem, towards a path of liberation, but I have no clue what happens at the end of this road.
I feel like it’s a bit of both. People create art, art inspires peoples actions and so on.
This is why I stopped using Reddit, after a while it just became a form of self harm.
Well, I have good news, these so-called AIs have yet to make anything. Their output is just terrible garbage and even if they get better or faster at creating it, it will still be faster and more terrible garbage.
bit idea: pretend like everyone commenting/posting online defending AI slop is an LLM chatbot and tell them you accept that AI has finally replaced/automated “people posting shitty takes online” but you no longer engage with chatbots.
why doesn’t it occur to more people that they could take their violence out on a health insurance CEO instead of themselves
We are gaslit into hating ourselves instead of our masters.
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AI will most likely decimate commercial art and put millions out of work
Artists already struggle to make ends meet with their art alone (because capitalism as always), yet they continue to make art because it’s in their blood.
AI will make life harder for us to be sure, but artists can’t help ourselves but be creative.
The idea of killing oneself over a lack of art rather than simply producing art is weak.
Yeah, I honestly think orange is slop material as well. Orange is as much a consoomer treatler as the AI bros, the only difference being the AI bros fully embrace guzzling slop while orange has pretensions over being a morally superior consoomer.
“I’ll kill myself if I can only find AI art.” How about just grabbing a pencil and begin sketching a bunch of shapes or writing a bunch of words on paper or tapping the pencil in a semi-rhythmic fashion? There, now you have found non-AI art, and with enough practice and discipline, this non-AI art can be good enough that you can share it with other people, some who might be inspired enough to create their own non-AI art.
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Short of some type of Butlerian Jihad it’s going to happen.
Fuck it’s contaminated now. You know, not that it would stop them, but this should count as code switching.
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