• Digit@lemmy.wtf
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      6 hours ago

      “remarkably safe” as in one can make a remark about it being safe.

      Though…

      Only if one looks only at one tiny teensy narrow aspect of biology (like humans don’t have the shikimate pathway), or if one does not lie or speak from ignorance.

      But even that GRAS by virtue of humans not having a shikimate pathway, is utter bunk in the whole of our health. Half our gut buddies that we depend on for a functional immune system and digestive system, do have a shikimate pathway. Not to mention the catalytic carcinogenic effects of glyphosate, or, even if you get it dry enough to have its breakdown be expedited enough to a short enough half-life within the lifetime of (typically >90% wet bodied) human , to get past those catalytic carcinogenic effects, the breakdown products are not good for us either… nor for the biosphere. Cumulative harms.

      But hey, don’t worry, everybody.

      The corporation has genetically modified species that can survive Glyphosatiation. So all you need to do to survive is to have those patented genes, so the corporation owns you, then you’ll be fiiiiiiine. It’s all part of the plan. Codex Alimentarius. The plan to own all life on earth. Yaaaaaaay, capitalism! Yaaaaaaay, monopoly! Yaaaaaaay, daddy corporation is here to save us, by owning us. Don’t you all feel relieved that it’s just a protection racket threatening your life, and all human life, and all life, just an anthrocide threat and an ecocide threat, to coerce us into being owned, rather than the certain end of [nearly] all life on earth? Don’t you feel relieved? Phew. I know I do. I thought for sure we were in a lot of trouble there. }( ¬)_( ¬){ We’ll be owned and be happy.

      Gee that’s a nice life and biosphere you have there. It’d be a shame if anything bad were to happen to it. Pay no attention to the solution space upstream. I have a jab I’d like to sell to you. Those are normal contrails.

      … Brutal jokes for brutal times.

    • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
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      3 days ago

      I think by “remarkably safe” he meant “appealingly harmful”. It’s understandable, I mix those up all the time.

      … Then again maybe the purpose of making the meme like that is provoke exactly this kind of comment.

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      Lmao. I think Monsanto is pouring money into Lemmy because holy shit there are some brown noses bootlickers defending daddy Monsanto.

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        Monsanto sold to Bayer to avoid public scrutiny, don’t forget your healthy does of Bayer disparagement.

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          Didn’t bayer recently sell to another company? I seem to recall a neighbor who is retired from them telling me he can’t shop at the bayer store anymore.

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            Didn’t bayer recently sell to another company?

            Heh. So Monsanto’s now like a game of hot potato [or latchkomb[1]]?

            Positive sign.

            [1: “There is a popular Moclan game called latchkum that we play from time-to-time. I do not believe you would enjoy it; it is not for humans.”]

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      They literally just retracted the 2000s paper saying it doesn’t cause cancer because it was found out Monsanto funded the researchers and got to approve and remove sections.

      This meme is rubbish and belongs in the trash.

      • I don’t think I’ve seen a study claiming adverse health effects when glyphosate is used according to Monsanto’s guidelines.

        Issue is is that deviation from it, e.g. using it in too high concentrations, does seem harmful. And it seems that it’s quite easy to mess this up for farmers, making it a risky product.

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          It you haven’t seen them you need to start looking because it’s not even that hard.

          • That’s 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T, not glyphosate. Entirely different compounds. Did you watch the video? It even shows that the cancer risks in mice occurred when they were exposed to much higher levels of roundup than the guidelines recommend.

            Glyphosate can be dangerous when misused, and Monsanto sucks as a company for downplaying and suppressing these risks. But as far as I am aware, there’s no study showing an increased cancer risk when used at the recommended dosage. Feel free to cite a study stating otherwise though!

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          Its safe when made in VERY VERY VERY specific conditions. Specifically temperature. If its off by even a couple degrees it will create another compound that is deadly. That is why it is unsafe, because its is too easy to fuck up. Its why when researchers tested, it was fine. Cause they were following the instructions to a t, and could reliably replicate the conditions.

          This video covers it. The first half is about the pesticide, the rest is about why farmers can’t plant their own seeds.