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Probably a When Prophecy Fails scenario, where they construe that the peace deal is actually a Ukrainian victory, and that
We can see this in the before/after analysis of Bakhmut, Pokrovsk, etc.
These
brutish Afghan savagesdevious Asiatic Slavs failed to win the war inAfghanistanUkraine despite us doing literally everything possible for them. I can’t believe we everconsidered these Arabs humanconsidered these Slavs honorary whites. It didn’t help that we were stabbed in the back bythe DemocratsDonald Trump who undermined all of America’s efforts to win the war for them.This entire war was a mistake unlike the next oneAt least we didn’t get any American troops killed so we are ready we fight in our next good war againstChinaRussiaChina.Libs already memoryholed Afghanistan, i seen them only using the name in context of “USSR lost, tankies L”
That was what I was trying to say, the same excuses as to why the US lost in Afghanistan but now applied to Ukraine with Afghanistan itself forgotten.
There are americans who, to this day, maintain that the US did not lose the Vietnam War.
By coping poorly and learning absolutely nothing
They’ll move onto supporting a genocide in Venezuela
Stabbed in back myth
They’ve been laying the groundwork with the ‘agent Kraznov shit’, echoing the original myth blaming commies at home for the defeat(how could it be possible the brave ukranians/germans lost? huh, logistics and supply what’s that? more marxist bullshit I bet)
“Uh aktually, PUTLER wants to completely genocide Ukrainians from existence and erase Ukraine from our collective memories, so the fact that Ukraine still exists in our hearts means PUTLER can never win.”
Yankees might just not accept that Ukraine lost. The maps will stay the same, they’ll start wearing “Slava Ukraini” shirts, and they’ll be calling Russia “East Ukraine” until 2065
they’ll be calling Russia “East Ukraine” until
2065America also collapsesI couldn’t resist a little r*ddit “FTFY”
Brother for the sake of the biosphere it’s gotta be sooner than that
You still see people talking about how Crimea is Ukrainian, and that the Russians will be evicted any day now.
Idk
Only American libs I’ve met who give a shit that much about Ukraine are usually super redditors. Most don’t care that much IMHO.
I think it’s much more of a European lib thing
Qe are super weird about it in Canada as well. Our public busses have a Stabd With Ukraine message on em
Canada is the #1 Nazi Liberal country on planet earth
At least American politicians no longer hide that they’re Nazis, Canaidains are still doing smug 2015 liberalism with their Nazism and going “le drumpf”
Well, heres the “german” chancellor
⚡️ 🇩🇪 German Chancellor Friedrich Merz: “If Ukraine falls, Putin will never stop” “We must take 1938 as a historical example”. “We should have realized this in 2014; if Ukraine falls, Putin will never stop”. “In, it was not enough for (Hitler) to get the Sudeten region; similarly, Putin will not stop”. “Those who think he will be satisfied with this should carefully analyze his strategy, documents, and speeches”. “Putin’s goal is to radically change the borders in Europe; he wants to restore the Soviet borders and establish the Soviet Union”.
So, not good
We must take 1938 as a historical example
Extremely concerning coming from a German
“We must take 1938 as a historical example”
Jesus fucking Christ remind me again who invaded Czechoslovakia and which countries allowed that to happen?
“We must do the things Adolf Hitler would have done because we project our own demonic racism onto our enemies” Germans please shut the fuck up forever and balkanize challenge. Literally the only lesson German liberals ever learned from WW2 and the Holocaust is “wow, I bet we can weaponize this so hard against the same people we victimized by doing it and against new groups!” Every German should be begging every person from every former Soviet state for forgiveness at all times, and the country shouldn’t even fucking exist anymore, never mind have a standing army that is growing. If you feel so guilty for the Holocaust (which they don’t, but they pretend to a lot more than they pretend to care about the 27 million Soviets they killed), why don’t you try taking it out on yourselves for once! Fucking hell!
“On the Kraut Question”
Much love to German comrades, the only people in Germany who seem to have an analysis of WW2 that actually is useful for anything other than militarism and laying the basis for fascism.
Your contempt for Germans would make Nietzsche gush. If you haven’t checked out how hard the man was roasting krauts, you might get a kick out of it.
Honestly, there have been (and are) a lot of cool and good Germans. They’re just not mainstream in German society and politics. Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll keep it in mind in case my reading list thins out!
“We must take 1938 as a historical example”
That so-called “German” nationhood is a world-historic mistake that humanity has collectively failed to correct?
USA does a decades-long covert operation pushing nazis leading up to a coup with Victoria Nuland’s hand-picked officials and the new regime begins ethnic cleansings: good and necessary
Russia crosses the magic sovereignty line in response: unforgiveable criminal behavior by the troglodytes which cannot be allowed, get me FIFA on the phone
(meanwhile the USA’s colonial outpost blockades and bombs starving Palestinians in a livestreamed genocide)
If you bring up the ethnic cleansing people act like you’re insane. It’s not like I have some secret info. It’s so weird. The invasion started with the US and Ukrainian governments saying Russia would invade on a certain day, and then when it wouldn’t happen the Ukranian military would escalate the shelling of the DPR and LPR cities. Finally Russia invaded. I can’t think of any way to see this except they were trying to force Russia to intervene.
This is exactly what happened, right? I would love to be wrong on this so I could have the normal liberal opinion.
Yes this is exactly what happened, Russia invaded during active mobilisation of AFU preparing for massive strike at Donbas which would end with high scale ethnic cleansing.
Probably by coping with Vietnam style “but actually look at the K/DR” (which will also be laughably wrong)
Korean/Democratic Republic
German rearmament
Use it to argue for massive militarization.
Same thing as when Biden pulled out of Afghanistan - a confused, wounded lashing out that lasts for weeks, then is forgotten entirely by the next news cycle.
