The commander of the arm of the U.S. military responsible for Donald Trump’s illegal military occupations of American cities said he is willing to conduct attacks on so-called designated terrorist organizations within the U.S.

This startling admission comes after months of extrajudicial killings of alleged members or affiliates of DTOs in the waters near Venezuela, which experts and lawmakers say are outright murders.

Gen. Gregory Guillot’s sopenness about the potential for unprecedented military action within U.S. borders comes as the White House, Pentagon, and Justice Department continue to refuse to rule out summary executions of Americans on Trump’s secret enemies list, after weeks of requests for clarifications from The Intercept.

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    It’s YOU. YOU are the “terrorist”. They are going to exterminate dissenters.

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    Antifa is considered a terrorist organization and transgender people are considered nihilistic violent extremists. Really putting that “enemy within” part to work.

    I hate this country.

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    If the Democrats had any fucking balls, they’d make sure he knows he’ll be up on treason charges the second they’re back in power. But they won’t, because they’re feckless enablers.

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    I guess they’ll be attacking the Proud Boys in no time with B-2 bombers and F-35s.

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    This is why they made antifa in to a terrorist label. Now you can kill anyone you want. Everyone is antifa whenever it serves Trump.

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      Palestine was the test bed for this shit.

      We demoed our ethnic cleansing systems over there so we could deploy them over here.

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        Exactly, centrist liberals forced us to this point by ignoring the boomerang of colonial violence headed straight for our faces AND the desperate attempts by the left to point it out.

        This is going to hurt.

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        Yeah, “as American as apple pie”, because America has always dressed fascist politics up as patriotism (the German American Bund’s 1939 “pro-Americanism” Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden drew 20,000+ people), then turned “extremist” labels into a weapon against the left (COINTELPRO was explicitly built to surveil/infiltrate/disrupt “subversive” movements), and when it was useful it literally gave Nazis a second life in the U.S. (Operation Paperclip brought 1,600+ German specialists into U.S. government work, including confirmed Nazi Party/SS/SA members, and U.S. intelligence also helped specific war criminals like Klaus Barbie evade justice and resettle).

        Trump is just the loudest salesman for a much older American habit: people fixate on the personality while swallowing the “terrorist” framing that expands the state’s permission slip to cage, crush, and kill. And it’s the same story with Israel: it constitutionally entrenches ethno-national supremacy through the 2018 Nation-State Law, empowers ministers like Ben-Gvir and Smotrich who openly talk and act in eliminationist terms, and America is unapologetically supportive of evening they do and it’s gleefully funding genocide they’re committing. America and Israel are fascist as fuck.

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    This man should be immediately court-martialed and removed. I hope he realizes he will be the second this administration is done.

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      I hope he realizes he will be the second this administration is done.

      Merrick Garland sat on his hands for years.

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        he was a republican part of the federalist society, he wasnt going to do anything anyways. i suspect the last admin only strung along with charging trump because it boosted thier numbers at the polls/voting, OLD school DEMS are totally complicit.

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    “Designated” in what way?

    IIRC, Trump just designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization despite the fact that it has never committed terrorism and it is not an organization.

    This is just carte blanche to murder any political opposition.

    Did anybody else interpret Trump’s messages about Rob Reiner’s murder as the same as when a terrorist organization takes credit for an attack? If anything actually deserves to be designated as a terrorist organization, it’s MAGA.

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      My first impression reading his bizarre comment was that Trump believed a MAGA cultist killed the Reiners for their politics, and he was happy about that and taking credit for what happened. Basically, “look what happens to meddlesome priests”.

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        I guess its probably too soon or insensitive to ask what his son’s politics were but I’m doing it. The Reiners were supposed to meet with President and Mrs. Obama later that night so their argument that led to the murders being about politics doesn’t seem completely impossible.

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          The 32 year old son had been in rehab 18 times. He’s a really screwed up dude, so trying to find some sort of logical motivation is unlikely. Like many of these shootings, the ultimate “reason” may be very unsatisfying to everyone.

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            If you look at a single incident and try to assign blame, you’ll likely never be satisfied with any answer. However, if you look at this as a category of incidents, then it’s actually quite easy to find ways to reduce the number of occurrences.

            For example, for drug related offenses, you could be looking at solutions like decriminalizing drugs and offering more social programs. Lab tests with rats have shown that when the rats have a strong community, they will naturally stop abusing drugs. It wouldn’t be surprising if the same thing works with humans. We should be spending government money to encourage the development of caring communities.

            For mental health related offenses, the same sorts of things can help. Having support can be the difference between life and death. Although psych meds can be lifesavers, the government needs to invest not only in pharmaceuticals and making pharmaceutical companies rich, but in treating the person.

            And it goes without saying, but the violent sort of fascist rhetoric that we constantly see from the GOP and MAGA in particular, shouldn’t be tolerated from our politicians. Ideally, I’d like to say the same for news, but that’s a more difficult problem to solve.

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              shouldn’t be tolerated from our politicians.

              That’s what’s getting me so bad about all of this. Constantly.

              There was some sort of facade of gentlemanly/ladyly respect in politics before, but now there’s just a klan of bullies who say and do whatever they want and say “So, what are you gonna do about it?”

              And the opposition can seemingly do naught but shrug and hand over all of our lunch money.

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            Clearly DJTJ told him that Hunter Biden would keep him flush with all the drugs he wanted if he offed his parents, but as with any deal made with the Trumps it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on before being flushed down the White House toilet. /s

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          There has apparently been an argument at a party the night before at Conan O’Brien’s.

          Rob had scolded or said something to his son, but also as stated elsewhere, Nick had multiple drug problems for years including rehab and homelessness. It’s too bad that he hadn’t had more therapy to help him, especially since his family could have afforded the best care.

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      Given that “domestic terrorist organization” is a term that has no legislative or legal meaning and was literally just a made up category for Trump to put “antifa” into, it seems like this general is actually answering that question for us.

      There is exactly ONE “designated terrorist organization” in the United States and its “Antifa” and the mechanism for this designation is that Trump decided it.

      He is happy to deploy the military specifically to target any group identified by Donald Trump as his personal opposition.

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    U.S. military willing to attack “designated terrorist organizations” within America, general says

    I designate MAGA as a terrorist organization. Go after them plz

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    Military in nation with authoritarian leader consolidating power for authoritarian takeover says things about consolidating power to continue the authoritarian takeover, more at 11.

    The people in the military who could do something about this are caught in self-imposed ethical conundrums and leaving all on their own while the people who don’t care and are even willing to fuel their future dictator into power have no restraint whatsoever and are getting rewarded for it. Hey, at least when it’s all over, that imaginary good guy in the sky will materialize before you and tell you how you did the right thing, right?

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    Oh, cool. So now you’re gonna like, break the law within our own borders by operating within them? That’s awesome. No longer will the USA military need to cross borders to fuck with people unjustifiably. What a relief.

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      I remember back during round one with this shithead when people were saying ICE was just a test to see US civilian reaction to armed forces, a step further what cops have become, in their cities. They were correct, it appears. Feels like some crazy political inertia that this unconstitutional bullshit keeps on keeping on.

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      Who do these war criminals and traitors think are going to protect them for the street of hard knocks? I keep saying this but I really think these fools think there are bunkers deep enough to hide and ride out all the civil unrest they are trying to sew.

      Soon everyone will be on the same page, and even the Trumpers are waking up, this is a class war being waged by less than 1000 billionaires to exterminate all of us people that get in the way of their happiness…

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        They think they’re going to win, and so far there’s been precious little to indicate otherwise.

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        Humanity needs to end their extravagances in order to survive. They are trying to build rockets to take their lifestyles off planet bcz earth can’t support it. They know their division systems are breaking down and we are coming for them.

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    So the U.S. military will start killing Americans opposed to fascism (aka anti-fascists; aka the designated terrorist organization Antifa).

    Like we didn’t all see this coming…
    And yet I’m still surprised it’s arrived.

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      Someone made a “should I buy a pistol” post the other day…

      And people were still saying it’s a bad idea.

      We passed the point where a pistol is enough anyways, and way past the time people need to prioritize their own safety.

      It’s easy as fuck to buy guns, ammo, and armor right now, but that could change literally tomorrow.

      I’ve been saying since Trump won the election, everyone needs a rifle and plated vest.

      It’s an insurance policy for our future, an armed populace is harder to oppress. And Trump’s pretty likely to try and oppress a whole lote of us…

      But people still don’t even have a pistol in 2025 America. I’m all for getting stricter gun laws, but until shits illegal, it’s stay strapped or get clapped like the 80s

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        It’s mainly a bad idea because an individual cannot hope fight the army and the police. What’s needed is organized mass resistance.

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          The American Revolution and the French Revolution were fought against two of the most powerful armies in the world. America lost both the Vietnam War, and the Afghanistan war to indigenous guerilla armies. There are many, many other examples.

          Guerilla warfare is highly effective against powerful armies who can’t get out of their own way.

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            It’s because you can’t fight an enemy you can’t find.

            And to be effective guerilla fighters , you never fight the battle the opposing force wants you to fight. Quite honestly? Firearms are only so helpful and they have equipment and training galore to counter it.

            IEDs were devastating to the US. So much so that they had to develop an entire transportation platform to safely cross territory. In Vietnam? Anti-personel mines. Today? Maybe thermite! Maybe chemical warfare. Maybe committing all sorts of war crimes because of the resistance doesn’t, they can’t win.

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              Firearms are only so helpful and they have equipment and training galore to counter it.

              They’re a visual deterrent…

              And especially when dealing with cops, they’re a very very effective deterrent.

              When the last time you saw cops assaulting openly armed protesters?

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              Today, a big part of guerilla warfare will be hacking the enemies systems. The Israeli Beeper Attack is a perfect example.

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                That was a literal physical attack on a supply chain vulnerability, and they didn’t need any software hacking as they had direct access to the hardware.

                That’s way more difficult to pull off, but an intelligent and fearsome way to take advantage of that vulnerability. Though I would have liked it way more if Israels hardware was the hacked one.

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                  I wasn’t using “hack” in the computer sense, it was more in the systemic sense, using their own systems against them.

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            The American revolution, Vietnam and Afghanistan were wars fought by occupying forces against indigenous populations. The guerrilla armies didn’t have to completely eliminate the occupying force, thy just had to make it financially and politically undesirable to continue to fight. A civil war on the other hand, fought against the US government would have no such ‘victory’ condition. They would never decide to give up because they essentially can’t be bothered any more. You would also be fighting against the intelligence apparatus of the state. The NSA, CIA, FBI etc. Who have to capability to track your every movement, freeze your bank accounts, seize your assets, stop your medical care, end your employment. And that of anyone who associates with you. How are you going to continue that fight for any sustained period of time?

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              That fight would fundamentally change the circumstances we’re all in. I don’t know what the government will look like by that point, but it might have a hard time ending employments when nobody is employed to neutral organizations in the first place. Everything will either be for or against a revolution. Many ways of life will collapse, and the government relies on those too. So while they’ll certainly be at an advantage still, who knows what kind of fight we can give them?

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                That’s a good point - but it depends on total war breaking out pretty much immediately, there can be no slow build up or call to arms, because that period would be when the state is at its most powerful!

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              And ALL of those agencies would be filled with enemy agents who would be sabotaging everything in every way possible. They would NEVER gain total control of the government.

              And remember that when a corrupt, moronic government like MAGA kicks out all their experienced, patriotic military and political leaders, and replaces them with drooling sycophants, theyve strengthened their enemies, and weakend their own side. In addition, those at the very top are absolute idiots, who can be counted on to do the wrong thing, every time.

              And those domestic enemies aren’t just guerilla fighters, they are experienced military leaders and former insiders who know their enemy’s every move, all their equipment, all their strategies, etc. They know what they’ll do before they do it, because they probably taught it to them in the first place.

              Every large country thought that there was no way they could be beaten, until they are. There are Americans who still think America has never lost a war, when we’ve lost several, or at least certainly didn’t win them.

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                At this point we’re into wild speculation about how it would play out. You’re describing an armed conflict where maybe some states have succeeded and there is in effect a civil war, with both sides Well armed, and supported by an industrial and financial base, and you make some good points. Although I think relying on the current level of incompetence in leadership to carry on is optimistic. I’m talking about the original premise of citizens in an armed insurrection. I don’t fancy their chances.

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            If you can get organized, a lasting general strike is way more likely to bring him down than an armed riot. Because this would harm his oligarchs pals and they would turn against him in an instant and use their vast amount of money to get him out.

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          That’s not certain to be true. Also the existence of these guns can be helpful to an organized resistance, should one appear. So if I were in the US and could afford it, I’d get some weapons and store them for whenever needed, by whoever, not necessarily me. Worst case scenario (or best) - they never get used.

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            I am a gun owner, who would rather never see it used in battle. Unfortunately, I have the feeling that the choice of bloodshed would boil down to this: “Do I want to live in a world run by these people?”

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          Yeah, it’s really the dumbest take. Get a gun! That’s not going to solve anything when we have so many systemic issues at play here. A gun ain’t going to do shit, but make you more likely to use it on yourself. Don’t google gun stats unless you want a bad day.

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            You definitely shouldn’t get a gun, but don’t hide behind me when the marauders start going house to house, killing anyone whose house isn’t decorated in MAGA momentos.

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              They can get behind me, I just ask that they provide support. Hand me loaded magazines, give me some food every so often, tell me what is going on in the neighborhood, dress my wounds with clean TP. If they can’t fight, they can still serve the cause.

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              I’m hardly opposed to arming up for self-defense, but let’s be real, if a squad of police/National Guard/military are outside your door ready to fuck up your day, a pistol isn’t gonna do much.

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                Why would you not want the best tool available for the job? It may not be sufficient on its own but it’s better than either surrendering quietly or throwing rocks at them which seem to be your alternatives.

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                  Oh I totally agree it’s better than going willingly. I suppose the best alternative would be monitoring your threat level and getting out of dodge before there is a team of soldiers outside your door. Failing that, I’m not sure any personal-sized arsenal is going to do much good

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        I’m waiting on the Supreme Court to rule on if weed smokers can own guns. If it goes through. I have some really special toys coming my way. If not. I’ll just have to learn more hand to hand combat.

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          This is like saying you’re waiting for jaywalking to be legal before you buy your first pair of shoes …

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            I know. I get razzed by friends. But my dad’s guns will be my guns when he passes. So it’s not like I don’t have a gun or have used a gun. I just don’t keep it on my persons. It’s in a safe in a different home.

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        You realize we’ve been over that debate when right loonies were saying exactly the same thing: “Get ready because Biden is coming for your guns!!” and the answer is no matter how much weapons you have, you’ll never be a match for trained police forces and even less in front of the National Guard. And Trump will be way too happy to have his civil war “started by tRaItOr BiDeN” even if it’s actually a skirmish against 3 armed people trying to stop ICE from grabbing someone in the street.

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          Show me one example of cops attacking armed protesters, escalating to violence to disrupt it.

          Things like MOVE or Waco the Feds will always win. But if trump halts an election, remains in power, and starts rounding up anyone who opposes him…

          Do you think you’ll still be able to buy a gun?

          Whatever your hypothetical line is where you believe you need to take responsibility for your own self defenses at least, do you also think at that stage people can still just buy a gun?

          And Trump will be way too happy to have his civil war “started by tRaItOr BiDeN” even if it’s actually a skirmish against 3 armed people trying to stop ICE from grabbing someone in the street.

          Like, you’re acting like it’s both inevitable that we get to this point, but steadfastly refusing to prepare for it and telling others not to as well

          I’m desperate to understand the logic leading you down this road, because we can’t afford people to follow you.

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            When the 1st American Civil War started, many people brought their own weapons and ammo to the cause, among other supplies. The first year of it involved people and logistics being shifted around, because the nation as a whole was splintered. Here and there, people moved across states to join with the ideology they believed in.

            I suspect that the 2nd American Civil War would be much the same. Blue State individuals who are armed, would be the early line of defense while the proper Blue Military gets itself into proper order.

            Ken Burn’s “The Civil War” goes into the topic of how ordinary people were involved with the conflict, and the general chaos that entailed.

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        A rifle? Like a hunting rifle? That sounds like the worst option, no?

        This is an honest question, I’m not trying to be a dick.

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          To echo what is said in the Paul Harrell videos posted, the best rifle to defend yourself/ your family/ your home with is the one you have.

          If that happens to be the hunting rifle that you inherited from your grand dad then so be it. What’s important is that you are know how it works, have ammunition for it, and have shot it more than once. Hope this was helpful!

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            Sure, but it just seems very slow, and requires a good shot. A pistol or shotgun sound like better options, since they fire faster or wider.

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              You are absolutely right that they are slow and require a high degree of training, competence, and accuracy to be a viable option for home/personal defense. There are absolutely better options for firearms that one could and should use but that wasn’t the point I was trying to make which was if you lack anything else then a hunting rifle is better than nothing unless you are a very skilled martial artist

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          What you can legally get…

          Which these days, for people in most states, is some pretty crazy shit.

          If you really think things are gonna keep getting worse and worse like so many say, it makes sense to prepare. And that means more than just buying a gun.