There have been dozens, if not more, of impeachable offenses Trump has committed and they don’t care. Why would they care about this, which helps their dear leader?
Because no one cares about Pam Bondi, but the American people care about the Epstein files
Who’s going to defend her? She made the administration look bad while also pissing off the public
In n particular, MAGA care about the Epstein files. This is a major crack in their coalition. They spent years throwing around conspiracy theories about pedophile cults secretly running the world. They are obsessed with the Epstein files, and the more Trump tries to obfuscate their contents, the more they have to start wondering what his skin in the game is. We’re already seeing it happen with people like MTG publicly turning on him.
It’s still a cult. They don’t want to suspect dear leader of anything. But the more he works to conceal stuff, the more they’re trapped between two things they hold at absolute truths. One of them has to give eventually.
I’d dearly love to believe you but if any group of people are champions of managing cognitive dissonance without addressing it, it’s the MAGA crowd.
Everything has it’s limit.
I have yet to see the limit of MAGA voters’ stupidity, but I hope you are right.
See, the thing is, I’m not talking about their stupidity.
That’s why the Epstein stuff is sticking in a way nothing else is; because it doesn’t ask them to be smart. In fact, it plays right into their stupidity. That’s the difference.
Everything else has bounced off them because it was easier to excuse it. Excusing the tariffs is easier than learning how trade really works. Excusing tax cuts is easier than understanding how the economy really works. Excusing his foreign policy blunders is easier than trying to understand the value of soft power. Ignorance is simpler. Ignorance is easier.
But the Epstein stuff? That sticks because they don’t have the ability to be ignorant about it. This is something they know. Secret cabals of pedophile elites kidnapping children to sexually abuse them on a private island? My brother in Christ, they write fanfiction about that shit. They are the self proclaimed experts on that stuff. With everything else they can just say “Well I don’t understand this, but I’m 100% confident that Trump does, because obviously the billionaire is a genius.” But then they watch as Democrats are out there screaming for the release of the Epstein files while Republicans are dragging their heels and it does a number on them. Because they know how this is supposed to work; Democrats are all evil child rapists and Trump is the saviour sent to stop them. So why is Trump running cover for the pedophile cabal?
In short, I’m not claiming that MAGA are suddenly getting smart. I’m claiming that the Epstein cover up is exactly the right kind of stupid.
I really hope you are right, I’m not up to date with MAGA I don’t run in any of their circles, but I know Meagan whatever her name is already tried downplay pedophile like if they are 15 it’s not as bad.
I’m just afraid they are so stupid it’s easy to explain stuff away with bullshit like that
Who’s going to defend her?
More pressing, who is going to prosecute her? To date, I’ve seen zero impulse under any prior administration to prosecute the wrongdoing of outgoing officials.
The closest case has been the half assed effort to get Leticia James on… misreporting a mortgage statement?
Nobody at the highest levels of government and business actually want to fuck with one another. It is always and forever punching down on the plebs.
Congress. They can just impeach her
I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she’d be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis
I mean she could refuse to leave, but then she’d be committing all sorts of crimes on a daily basis.
Now Trump definitely won’t fire her. He loves criminals who do crimes for him.
No, Trump loves Trump. Everyone else is useful until they’re not, at which point they get thrown under the bus or conveniently commit suicide.
Exactly.
No he doesn’t… He doesn’t give a shit about them. He’s abandoned so many loyalists it’s crazy
He talks shit about them even. He relishes when they get punished in his name
They can just impeach her
Hasn’t Trump been impeached twice already?
Yes, but really no.
They impeached him, which is the name of the procedure to remove an official from office, but then they didn’t have the Senate votes to remove him from office
they didn’t have the Senate votes to remove him from office
When has anyone ever?
Us, right now?
This isn’t a unicorn. Literally the entire Senate voted to release the Epstein files, that unanimously passed law in the Senate was not followed
The only thing the military should be doing is locking up the administration for crimes against humanity
Lock her up.
Throw it on the heap of all the other illegal shit this administration has done for which they’ll never be punished.
Hey, now, you can make sure they’re punished. You can be the justice you want to see in the world. It’s just a matter of willpower ;)
Cool glow post.
Na, I just hate seeing tyrants usurp democracies. Good try, though.
A good try indeed!
Paedo protector pam.
Remember what she did when the fat old child rapist dies.
Then what will be the consequences? I don’t give a fuck that these people are breaking the law if nothing is going to be DONE about it. I want a headline that says Trump and his cronies are to be prosecuted. Not might be! ARE! and I want the trial to happen quickly, not be dragged out for four years, by which time America has irreversibly descendended into fascism!
Disbarred and indicted is a very real possibility for a Trump associated lawyer. I lost count how many times that happened
And off to Fox News to be a pundit, still making millions of dollars per year.
Democrats will make a big theater about and proceed to not do anything when they have power.
“It’s time to come together and heal as a nation. Now is not the time for retribution.”
Accountability is what we want. Retribution is what they see it as because they don’t believe they’re doing anything wrong.
And then in 30 years, Stephen Miller is elected president
consequences? what’s that?
Trump and his cronies need to be removed from the office, not prosecuted. Not because a part of the population strongly disagrees with his policies, but simply because he has been blatantly disregarding the constitution. And if you think “only the supreme court can decide if that’s true” I’m sorry but you’re wrong, you only need a brain. You don’t need a conviction to know that he is a paedophile and has something weird going on with Putin, you just need your eyes and ears. The epstein files have now been released, clearly implicating him, yet people still seem to be waiting for “the official thing” and crying about the redactions. I understand that he “allegedly” is an Epstein associate until he’s convicted, but dear Americans please remember that being found guilty of something is not the same as being guilty of something. You can be one without the other. You can be reasonably certain someone did something based on the evidence you’ve seen. Judges are not superhuman, and especially if they’re complicit, how can you rely on them to stop the injustice?
This really is not a call for violence. I do not care how you stop Trump from hurting the USA and the rest of the world, but it does need to happen, and You The People are the only ones who can make it happen. It is your duty and your right to resist tyranny, isn’t it? I hope new “political” figures can rise soon and accomplish that with nothing but charisma and a spine, but at the very least, please stop being so defeatist towards the lack of consequences.
I’m not sure if this is directed at me specifically or the American people but 1) I’m not American and 2) I’m not being defeatist, I’m demanding something be done to change things just like you are. Before the people can do something, they need to recognize that the government isn’t going to do anything to stop this
No this is not directed to you at all, just seemed like a good space to vent :)
I just hope Americans can find hope and love for each other again, and really be the “beacon of liberty” they purport to be.
Prosecuted by who? Themselves? We’re in a fascist state lol, anyone who thinks anyone is going to be legitimately prosecuted is living in a fantasy world.
I know they aren’t, my comment was an expression of anger about lack of consequences
There won’t be consequences.
Get involved in your community. Learn who runs your town, your county, your school district, your state.
Find out who represents what, spend a few hours a week reading and sharing info on local/neighborhood social media, volunteer if you really have the time and drive to make changes. Even just hold a yard sale and get to know your neighbors if you live in that kind of environment.
The reason nobody is paying attention to the law is we stopped paying attention to the people who are supposed to uphold it. We only tune in every 4 years when the circus comes to town, meanwhile the entire fetid clownshow is propped up on a foundation of local representatives and judges and boards of people who largely run uncontested or are installed by companies, not groups of people.
They are leveraging our short attention spans to vote in people who will favor corporate interests over law, and those corporations? they will work harder to erode our attention even further. We can fix this, but it has to start at home.
Remember when Obama decided that “moving on” was more important than prosecuting the Bush admin for war crimes? There won’t ever be any consequences for these people unless we find a way to distribute them ourselves.
The corruption, incompetence, and negligence of the Bush administration led to the avoidable deaths of over 10,000 American citizens, countless foreign nationals, the rise of organized Muslim military extremism, AND the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.
When Obama took over, I never bought into his Hope & Change bullshit, he looked like just another neolib placeholder President, meant to fill in between destructive Republicans presidencies. That was the role of EVERY Democratic president since LBJ, the last warrior Democrat, and that’s the role that Obama filled.
I said at the time, that if Obama didn’t aggressively punish the crimes of the Bush administration, the Republicans would view it as extreme weakness, and pounce. Republicans are feral, and they operate like wild animals. If their natural tendency for chaos isn’t controlled, the next Republican administration would be even worse.
Despite that, even I was surprised at how bad MAGA became.
Remember when Obama continued committing war crimes like he was the 3rd and 4th terms of the bush administration? It was in his best interest not to prosecute, the precedence would have been inconvenient for him.
For sure I do. I just wanted to hold up an example of a liberal hero for demonstration.
And nothing will happen.
I mean the dogs in that experiment were right, they were being tortured by humans and they had no control over their experience. The fact that sometimes the humans turned off the shock to fuck with them doesnt really change that they were powerless.
Sure. I’m just saying that this well-known demonstrated phenomenon is being weaponized against you
Fair, that’s true
Porque no los dos
I hope that if I’m ever in the papers for abandoning my morals, my oaths, and all dignity in egregiously stupid ways, that my wonton and clear law-breaking is characterized as defiance.
“Oh, no, your honor, I wasn’t breaking all those laws! I was defying them!”
I hope if I’m ever in the papers for defying the law, abandoning my morals and doing some that will be remembered with scorn through all of history, it will be for something like assassinating someone I learn from a time traveler will become the next genocidal scourge to humanity.
Not, you know… helping a kid rapist get away with raping kids.
Do it, stop talking about it.
Government be like “I’m gonna count to three…one…two…two and a half…two and three quarters…two and seven eighths…two and fifteen sixteenths…”
I’m sure her loyalty will be richly rewarded.
The leopards are licking their lips
Only until her actions and existence becomes inconvenient, then she will find out that people she so blindly defends don’t have her back as much.
Exactly.
‘Don’s Best Friend’: How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women
And we now go live to the DNC for their complete strategy for holding the American Fascist Party accountable:
And now we see the dbshitter answer of ‘do fucking nothing but complain and let bigots kill minorities.’
To own the libs of course.
The last several federal elections have seen the highest turnout in US history.
The problem is not turnout, it’s information. Exit polling has shown over and over that the median voter, the bulk of our voting base, have no idea what’s going on because they don’t know who or what is real. We had Obama voters voting for Trump. We had Bernie bros voting for Trump. When asked, these people shrugged and broadly felt it didn’t matter. This is by design, the powers behind the power want YOU to tune out and think that voting is useless.
The DNC is a container, the contents have spoiled, we can pour the contents out and replace them. This is the best bet to turn things around, and anyone who doesn’t see that obviously has no actual idea of the scale and scope of the nation’s electoral system.
have no idea what’s going on because they don’t know who or what is real.
oh fuck no. They choose to believe what they want to hear. That’s what the digital era has done, you can get news all day long that tells you what you want to hear, and “news sources” like Fox poll viewers on what they want to hear, not actual news.
They choose to believe what they want to hear.
I am pretty cynical, but not so cynical that I blame all the problems on people who are just trying to get through a life that requires working 6 - 7 days a week just to eat and haven’t had the exposure to varied viewpoints and have had the curiosity beaten out of them.
No, that direction lay hate. And that’s what a certain set of people WANT. There are very wealthy people who benefit from all of us blaming each other for falling for very human, natural ploys.
YOU ARE NOT BETTER. YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO MISINFORMATION OR PROPAGANDA. I don’t care what you say, you’re just like any of us. Any of us are susceptible to the system you describe that atomizes our perspectives. I don’t blame people for falling into it because it’s bigger than any single one of us, it’s huge and has reach everywhere.
The direction for our hate and ire and desire for vindication needs to be leveled at the grifters, the influencers and the oligarchs who win as long as we’re not united and sympathetic to each other. We need to attack the systems that are harming people, not the people being harmed by them.
If the democratic leadership and MAGA keep things like this, harder voting will become inevitable. The kind that is leaden in nature.
Okay, she erased them. But did she remember to click “Empty Recycle Bin”
And not shit will ever happen about it. More news at 5!
It just gets so exhausting. Nothing will happen. No one will be held accountable. Ever. USA USA USA!!!
Nothing will ever change until the American people take to the streets and demand it. Stop waiting for someone else to fix it. They won’t.
Ah yes how do you propose they do that women and children in the back so they get shot and killed last?
Or what’s your suggestion?
Sustained protests have changed a lot in the past few years. You can ask France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Greece, The Netherlands, Serbia, Nepal, South Korea did it with varying degrees of success.
Maybe even the Home of the Brave could do it. Don’t let your pessimism get in your way.
Bulgaria’s far-right government, Madagascar, Indonesia very recently, Myanmar’s still ongoing.
It’s much harder to protest in the US since it’s so fucking big. All those countries you mentioned are tiny land mass compared to the US, so any US protests always seem so spread out.
I’m not against protest, just saying it’s not 1 to 1.
Why does that matter? Protest in your home town. The No Kings protests were held all across the country. No one had to travel anywhere.
Nobody is gunning down Americans, the outcome of that is the right and left uniting to topple the US government or at least to remove every representative from power, everyone knows this. US’s “fierce individualism” means there is always a precarious risk of going too far. This is why the powers that be have worked so fucking hard to divide us and make us afraid of each other and the “other side.”
That said, the marches are useless without political action to capitalize on the momentum.
Mussolini was not captured and executed by a plucky band of rebels who fought the Italian government. He was handed over to opposition forces BY the government when they realized that they could no longer sustain the current system. The king personally arrested him.
Nations are huge. They don’t turn on a dime, and you need politics to change things. A lot of leftists have a very dumb notion of how this needs to happen, and think that we can “do our own Jan 6th” and it will somehow work. It didn’t work then, it won’t work now.
We march, we mobilize, we organize, but we start at home, in your community, in your town or city, and we spread it through the state. We share information and vote in actual representatives for seats that largely go uncontested because people only care about democracy every four years when the circus comes to town. Vote out the current DNC stooges, vote out the sitting nobodies who want to preserve the status-quo, vote out the people who can’t say anything bad about the companies paying them. If we do that, AND march and protest, we take the country back. Right now though it’s plenty hard enough to get someone to finish reading a comment this long, much less go research who’s up for reelection in their school board or what’s the ruling history of their local judges.
Are you aware of Kent State or the Detroit riots? They have shot and killed protestors before and no one banded together then and no one will band together now.
Also refer to how they have DEA and friends use their facial recognition on protestors all the time and then show up at your house with bogus charges.
Its easy to say do something from an armchair and I feel you, I wish we could do something
1967 is a long way off from where we are now with a live camera feed in everyone’s pocket. That happened in a time where we were fresh out of segregation and most people read it as a “black problem” and moved on. While we still have a lot of division today, it’s not the same. We have growing momentum already with massive marches and protests, and division already happening within the government and administration.
The events where the US government has shot down protestors has paved the way for where we are now, those were large black marks on history that the government does not want to repeat, the powers that be are terrified of someone broadcasting a similar event. The desire to preserve the status-quo comes from a much higher power, the now-metastasized force of corporate power that wants people divided enough to not band together, but not so much that the system breaks and people stop buying shit.
Otherwise, they would have done it already. They want to so badly, they just want it to be a perfect situation where it appears like some organized antifa or hispanic terrorist group appear like organized insurgents, and so far that hasn’t happened because those kinds of groups don’t actually exist and we’re not in a war with insurgents.
All that said, I do not think our answer is going to be any kind of armed assault on DC. There will be no charismatic leader that waves the flag of revolution, we will not have that storybook ending. It’s the fantasy of children who can’t imagine or grasp the complexity and actual systemic challenge of changing the course of an entire nation with hundreds of millions of people.
Even if we succeeded, we would still have to live next to the millions of people who didn’t want us to do a coup, and so far I haven’t met a single progressive/leftist who has an answer for what to do about that.
Its easy to say do something from an armchair and I feel you, I wish we could do something
That’s what I am saying, and I am speaking from very much a NOT armchair place on this, I’ve done my time on asphalt. And you can do community organizing from your chair. But again, it takes discomfort, exposure to condemnation from people who don’t agree with your takes, people paid to squash messaging from anyone revealing dark stains on a local candidates career and so on.
Until the dems control Congress with a healthy majority, nobody in this administration will face accountability.
Even after dems have healthy majority these people won’t face backlash.
It’s two hands of the same body. They’re working together.
the reason they’ll say for no prosecution ?something like “so we can focus on our mission, let the healing start and so we can move forward together” ™
Bullshit. Too many old schools dems. Is Schumer actually still there? Pelosi? Probably. If so, we are all fucked anyway.
I don’t believe the democrats will prosecute these people either. The only way I see justice ever being done is if there’s a violent revolution or a war
If that was going to happen, it would have happened in Biden’s term.
They didn’t have control, Republicans held the Senate and blocked everything, didn’t they?
