It’s been challenged by at least 22 State Attorneys General and been blocked by multiple federal judges. The SCOTUS announced on the 5th of December that they were hearing arguments for it, idk if it’s been resolved yet.
I thought it was more about if a foreign nation say, invaded and controlled a state, then we wouldn’t be granting citizenship while it was under a foreign power.
Either way, no reading of that would apply to what the administration wants to see. I believe the argument I saw them attempting was to imagine another word was intended, “exclusively subject to the jurisdiction”, meaning an otherwise stateless child becomes a citizen, but if they have birthright citizenship claim anywhere else, that is what the administration would want to use as an excuse to deny citizenship.
Ah, okay, sorry. I thought you were implying that a person is immune to laws unless they’re a citizen, like those sovereign citizen types, I failed to realize you were quoting a passage from the order lol.
The order is this:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/
It’s been challenged by at least 22 State Attorneys General and been blocked by multiple federal judges. The SCOTUS announced on the 5th of December that they were hearing arguments for it, idk if it’s been resolved yet.
Writ of Petition by Trump to allow the order: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25/25-365/378052/20250926163053178_TrumpvBarbaraCertPet.pdf
Scheduled hearing by SCOTUS for oral arguments: https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/120525zr_hejm.pdf
A good blog about the topic is here: https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/12/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-trumps-challenge-to-birthright-citizenship/
Such bullshit. If you can be arrested by the cops, you are subject to the jurisdiction.
You don’t need to be a citizen to be subject to law enforcement, the only exceptions are people with diplomatic immunity.
I think there should be bare minimum human rights for all, not just citizens, but that’s not the case currently.
That’s basically the point. If you are subject to law enforcement and you have a kid here, the kid is a citizen.
“Subject to the jurisdiction” was essentially to keep diplomats kids from becoming citizens.
I thought it was more about if a foreign nation say, invaded and controlled a state, then we wouldn’t be granting citizenship while it was under a foreign power.
Either way, no reading of that would apply to what the administration wants to see. I believe the argument I saw them attempting was to imagine another word was intended, “exclusively subject to the jurisdiction”, meaning an otherwise stateless child becomes a citizen, but if they have birthright citizenship claim anywhere else, that is what the administration would want to use as an excuse to deny citizenship.
Ah, okay, sorry. I thought you were implying that a person is immune to laws unless they’re a citizen, like those sovereign citizen types, I failed to realize you were quoting a passage from the order lol.
Thank you, hopefully discussing this will help some of the people I know see reality, rather then the indoctrination they consume right now.