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    No, seriously. Web sucks for GUI. Every basic UI framework does a better job at accessibility, not to talk about performance or weird bugs because it expects Chrome (cross-platform, huh?) to simulate a GUI on a Document Object Model, graceful degradation be damned. And buttons, forms, is something you don’t need JS for. You do a poor job if you do.

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        So you could in Delphi’s VCL and that compiled to every platform too. And that in the early 90s.

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      the web is the display server/compositor of the internet

      if you want it to go away, everyone who is working on it and making it work right now disagrees with you

      everything you said goes away with canvas and video games.

      “durrrr video gaimes no belongy on interwebzzzz bcuz the DOM is for word documents onlyyyyyyyyy steve ballmer said sooooo” – an idiotic luddite

      wasm runtimes are the next app platform or will inspire it

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        if you want it to go away, everyone who is working on it and making it work right now disagrees with you

        I’m sure most people wouldn’t like losing their jobs.

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          itch.io is a sin against the web. Those idiotic people… enjoying non document based web applications… they are destroying the internet!

          The godot foundation is a destructive force and must be ended before all of the web as we know it has capitulated to… javascript and non DOM APIs!!!

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          Yeah if wars were somehow abolished for good, a LOT of people working in arms manufacturing would be pissed.

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    I would prefer webapps to native if there was a protocol to fully load the page and disable network traffic for apps that work fully offline. It is more secure to run an app in the browser because off the layers of isolation in modern browsers. Native apps can access all sorts of information and system resources, which could be used to compromise the host OS.

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    And yet on my phone I wish websites would stop hawking the native app and just let me use the site. In a way I suppose this is the same complaint since the native apps are often a web wrapper with telemetry.

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      no but actually I can’t stand wasting my storage on telemetry bloated bullshit. Let me use the website or I’m noy buying your garbage

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        Same. Literally had two very similar options for a flight last week and it was between Delta and American. Delta made it almost impossible to book last time if I didnt download their app. So the choice was simple, American got my money.

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    Fuckit, if anything more fancy than HTML + CGI is needed, there’s always VRML.

    …holy shit, it just dawned on me… VRML + CGI? Today’s PCs should have no issue rendering it, and server-side should be the same as any other CGI page. I gotta do some experimenting with this.

    UPDATE: I actually did some research into this, and the possibilities are actually quite extensive. In theory it should be possible to make an extremely basic multiplayer FPS game.

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    I would prefer webapps to native if there was a protocol to fully load the page and disable network traffic for apps that work fully offline.

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      Vanishingly few apps work fully offline and they tend to be the ones that don’t send a buttload of requests in the first place.

      In my experience.

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    To be fair web is still more cross-platform UI than anything else while Apple and Google try to distance their compatibility even further.