• zensanto
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    2 days ago

    Nah. The crazy part is how they think it’s okay to be ripped off as long as it’s not by a fascist.

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      If my options are ripped off by a fascist or ripped off by not a fascist, then yes, I’ll choose to be ripped off by not a fascist. The fuck kind of argument did you think you were making?

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        2 days ago

        Don’t get ripped off.

        I know, that’s a foreign concept to most of you.

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          You’re the one who injected “getting ripped off” into the discussion as some false dichotomy, so don’t grandstand about how apparently anyone who doesn’t support fascism is a sucker, you dolt.

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          Rich coming from the person trying to justify Tesla cars as not a ripoff when they’re some of the worst shit to come out of North America in the past few decades, equipped with a ripoff self-driving technology that doesn’t work even though it was promised to be coming as a fully fledged feature a decade ago, and which has been getting charged as a complete feature for just as long.

          Maybe, just maybe, the ultra-billionaire fascist asshole who’s hoarding wealth by inflating his companies’ stock prices doesn’t have his costumer’s best interests in mind. I know, shocking, moral values kinda correlate with whether you’re getting ripped off or not, its a crazy concept, and one that the MAGA folks so desperately think they understand but they sorely don’t.

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            2 days ago

            I’m literally saying Teslas are a ripoff.

            You’re paying extra because there’s no competition. There’s no competition because the same people profiting off of your naivete uses that profit to buy your government and make your laws.

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              9 hours ago

              OP literally said there’s much better deals anyways. You focused entirely on the financial aspect of the comment, when that was never what was being discussed. Its perfectly fine for people to, in addition to thinking about good or bad deals, think about the moral implications of their purchases. At no point did they say or imply that morality was the only or primary basis for a purchase regardless of value proposition.

              Edit: don’t assume I’m a fucking gringo, ew

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                8 hours ago

                I’m the one who commented.

                Use your brain.

                spoiler

                But let’s be real, that’s asking too much of you. You’re just upset that I dared criticize people for their mindless consumption.

                Keep spending.

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                  You’re zensanto. LadyMeow is LadyMeow. OP, in my context, is LadyMeow, not you. You’re just being autistic for no good reason.

                  To quote OP:

                  There are lots of much better electric cars if that’s what you want

                  Or is this too difficult for you to follow?

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      No one said that. Teslas are a ripoff anyway, so why are you framing this like it’s a choice between “support a fascist or get ripped off”? That’s fucking inane.

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        I said it’s crazy how this is where they draw the line.

        Most of the people saying to avoid Tesla are only saying that because of the CEO, not because the cars are scams.

        It’s part of why most people are rubes.

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          It’s crazy to you that someone would draw a line against supporting fascism? So if Elon released a decent product at a fair price, but was still an open neonazi, you would support him? Because having a moral stance guiding one’s economic decisions makes one a rube?!?

          Do you read and enjoy Ayn Rand or something?

          Criticizing Musk for being a nazi doesn’t preclude the other valid critiques such as Teslas being an overpriced and shitty product. That’s a strawman that you’ve injected into the conversation.