If we can’t be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?
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I vote in every damn primary fuck you
I’m registered as a Democrat to vote in their primaries even though I hate the DNC.
you know, like our last primary.
Well… shit… can’t argue with that
Imma head out
What a fucking joke
Independents can’t vote in primaries in my state and many others.
Independents are the majority, 40% of voters, with Rs and Ds at 30% each.
That shouldn’t be legal
That should absolutely be legal. Just imagine that a ton of Republicans vote in democratic primaries to mess up the democratic candidate.
I disagree.
One person, one vote… if a person decides they’d rather vote in D than R primary, there’s nothing wrong with that? What’s the “mess up”?
Rs vote for Ds all of the time, Ds vote for Rs, I vote third party, D, and R, depending on the election.
Locked in a party, there’s no reason to vote for anything. Just count the registrants, boom, whoever has the most registrations win.
We should be able to vote how we wish when we wish. This law is WORTHLESS.
It’s by state: https://ballotpedia.org/Primary_election_types_by_state
I think semi-closed the way it is implemented in MA is the best. You can request a primary ballot for either party but not both, regardless of what your voter registration says.
What fucking primaries? 🤦♀️
DNC primaries are nothing more than a livestock auction for donors. Libs will cry a big game about FPTP election systems and our need to overturn CU, but will ignore any of those major systemic contradictions when it happens to affirm their worldview
Imagine if they made the excuses for voters who pretend FPTP doesn’t exist, that they make for politicians who pretend FPTP doesn’t exist.
Acknowledging the failures of the democratic system is by definition an acknowledgement of the lack of agency in voters
You can’t both acknowledge FPTP and deny it as voter disenfranchisement - they are one in the same.
It’s not just about voting. We need more people RUNNING!
Regardless of your opinion on AOC, this documentary about how she got elected lays out the steps. IMO it’s how AOC got elected that is the key to fixing America. Americans need to make that happen every single election. Systematic problems need more than 1 presidential term to reverse after all.
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Independent local grassroots electoral movement. Dedicated to getting/organizing volunteers, signature gathering, door knocking, everything from getting candidates on the ballot to winning in the election.
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Candidate nominations. AOC didn’t sign up, her BIL or someone nominated her and the Grassroots Movement approached her to run.
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PRIMARIES. PRIMARIES. PRIMARIES. Target establishment DNCs who clearly have more in common with corporate lobbyists than their own constituents.
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Run the numbers game. Only 1/4 of their candidates won. Democrats should face a primary EVERY SINGLE ELECTION.
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There may be a ring of truth in that, but I’m registered “no party” in my state and therefore CANNOT vote in the primaries. I’ve considered changing my affiliation to Republican, so I can vote I’m their primaries.
I did, you should too. Could function as useful camouflage someday too.
“What do you mean I’m accused of terrorist sympathizing? I’m a registered Republican, I vote in the primaries, for the love of Pete!” (I gotta work on my chud vernacular, to be sure)
Yeah good point. But I think I may be screwed just from my Lemmy posts alone.
You’re not wrong, if any of us become interesting enough there’s not really any hiding. But it’s not magic either and there are a whooooole lot of disgruntled internet personas for them to monitor. I’m with ya though, I try to limit the details I give while simultaneously aware that it’s probably pointless.
Yeah, it’s real hard to stay quiet with this horror show going on.
I mean you say that, but in the state I live in a progressive candidate is running and getting huge engagement with the largest primary turnout ever I think but certainly in decades. All while the establishment Democrats are fighting hard against him.
Reminds me of Mamdami! Keep fighting!
The 2024 Democratic primaries, OP?
How about the 2026 primaries right now?
Yes, not great that the presidential primaries were effectively skipped, but people need to participate in a broad set of elections instead of just being fixated on the presidential race.
Your smaller races are the best shot to shape everything. If folks only bother to show up when a president is up, can’t be shocked that the establishment isn’t in touch with you.
There were primaries?
They are happening right this very minute.
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I vote in primaries, I vote for the more progressive candidate. I’ve also held my nose for too long voting for the candidate with more money and especially when they are just MAGA lite.
One does not simply walk into a DNC lair to vote and expect a warm welcome with open arms. Everyone knows that the DNC is corrupt. Progressives need to organise grassroots first, lobby and then work their into the political machinery. This is how the civil rights activists in the 1960s did and modern progressives should learn from them; kinda like how the fascists also learned.
The civil rights movement didnt just organize grass-roots, they essentially held a gun to the head of the democratic party
They actively worked against the DNC in most cases, since they were famously reluctant to embrace it
What (presidential) primaries? I haven’t had a presidential primary with more than one option since Obama 1, and I was slightly too young to vote. So maybe actually have fucking primaries?
EDIT: yes I vote in all the other primaries I can.
Did you not vote for Bernie against Hillary?
I did. He won my state. And the news completely ignored that.
Since the primaries are held at different times in different states, lots of people don’t have an option by the time the presidential primary gets to their state since it’s essentially over and all the other candidates have dropped out.
Oh shit, I forgot about that because I was abroad when I voted. Okay, my mistake, they’ve given me one single primary in my adult life.
If they put up Gavin Newsom I’m staying home. Additionally I will encourage anyone I know to do the same. I haven’t stayed home for a primary since I’ve been able the vote.
I refuse to vote for another centrist Democrat and I’m tired of acting like the only option is to choose the lesser of two evils.
Do you know what a primary is?
I do. When was there a leftist option?
America is a conservative country, being mad that there are no perfect leftists to vote for is childish. Damage control and pushing the needle away from the right is our only pragmatic option. Anything else is just wishful thinking. The world sucks and there is no quick fix, bitching about that and doing nothing will, unsurprisingly, accomplish nothing. Be realistic, not dogmatic.
America is whatever the population chooses it to be. I’m not looking for a perfect leftist option. I’ve been voting for the most left candidate since I’ve been able to vote (primaries, general, midterms, local, school board).
I believe in the electoral/civic process but, if the ratchet has tightened so far to the right then I don’t want to keep voting for the center. My position of abstaining from the process, and encouraging others to do the same, is my way of pushing the needle left.
Not touching nor interacting with the needle enables it only to go farther right.
I get it, shit sucks, and everything is broken, but that is just a fucking stupid and masturbatory response to the situation. It’s very self centered and myopic, I’m sorry, man, but you’re not a hero, nobody is, and that is a shit excuse to do nothing while patting yourself on the back like it was something.
Not directed at you just a general statement. If you don’t vote then you’ve quite literally not done anything, and you didn’t do nothing for the sake of others, you did nothing to fulfill your own ego, stop bragging about it.
I respect that, I just disagree. I think my line of reasoning is sound. I’m not pushing people out of political engagement I’m simply saying not to vote for a centrist candidate.
Also, someone would have to understand my comment politically in order to be swayed by my rhetoric. If I’m advocating for left candidates and pointing out why I’m not voting for centrists I think that’s a winning strategy.
As long as we agree on two things, I think this conversation has reached its conclusion : 1. That my strategy is to only vote left or stay home. 2. Your strategy is to always vote for the most left leaning candidate even if the party keeps moving right.
If that’s not your position let me know.
I vote in the primaries, but for the independent ballot. None on the Dem ballot represent me by sticking too close to the centrist/center-right stances the party has. I can always find several people that speak for me on the independent ballot.
