• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Mailfence has no idea who I am.

    Tuta never got any payment info outta me, though I do use them for official things tied to my actual id… but only those things, not other things.

    ???

    The alternative is to use an alternative.

    They are technically incapable by design of complying with warrants for email data.

    Fucking obviously not, this is far from the first time something like this happened.

    They could, you know, design the services they offer such that they are actually incapable of complying with warrants, by design.

    Payment info is the easiest, most direct way to identify a person, beyond uploading your actual government ID.

    Maybe, maybe Proton should stop acting like that is not fucking obviously the case, maybe they should make it more clear that if your threat model includes, I dunno, a terroristic theocratic fascist government, their currently existing marketing is extremely misleading to tech-normies?

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      5 days ago

      If you pay for mailfence with card, they know who you are.

      Also, I’m pretty sure that proton do not have unencrypted email contents of their users. That’s why they can’t offer IMAP like everyone else does (you can’t connect your email client directly to proton, you need an extra app).

      Also, I think that proton’s marketing is pretty in-line with what they actually offer. Protection from e.g. data breaches should be quite good and I think it’s reasonable to primarily market to people who are not directly targeted by the US government.

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        4 days ago

        Who pays for mailfence?

        Why would you?

        I think it’s reasonable to primarily market to people who are not directly targeted by the US government.

        Then you’re either an idiot or are somehow blissfully ignorant of everything related to Peter Thiel and Palantir.